Iraqis urge government to free shoe-thrower

[PigmerikanMao]

Luckily, he's only being tortured, right? Dipshit.

*High fives*
Yeah, he may not be dead yet, but odds are the reporter isn't being given the treatment prisoners are afforded by international law- or Iraqi law either. The idea that Saddam was worse (for the Kurds, sure) is a pretty semantic argument. The situation is still fucked up and a lot more unstable thanks to Bush. Criticizing the man who threw the shoe because you feel Iraq may be a little better than before 2003 is pretty dumb considering all the damage that has been done. Can you blame them (Iraqis) for being a little angry?

[RGacky3]

Heres the thing, maybe its unstable, and yes that is the United States fault, BUT, at least when (if) it stabalizes, chances are the government will be a LOT more free than under Saddam.

Think about this, before Hitler germany was also very unstable. That is not what we should be judging governments on perse.

You are using a very American and specific use for the word freedom. Which means writing a vote on a peace of paper for politicians who can either afford to run, or in Iraq have permision from the imperialist to run for political power. So this freedom is only exercised in small portions of their life.

Voting has nothing to do with freedom, I mean freedom of speach, assembally, thought, lifestyle and so forth.

In this case Saddam is the lesser of the two evils. And saying that he is psycopath is not a good arguement, you have to use real points rather then media hype from the two gulf wars.

Considering the repression of Shiates and murder of Kurds, (well documented), and killing of any political dissidents IN TIMES OF PEACE (theres the kicker), I would say yes. Will the next government be less murderous and less repressive than Saddam? Most likely. Thats what I mean

Now then, does that justify the US invasion? Not at all.

[PigmerikanMao]

Now then, does that justify the US invasion? Not at all.

Thank you

[not_of_this_world]

Bush is a psychopath and a murderer and I hope some DA has the balls to start proceedings on Bush's murder trial when he leaves office. No one but a psychopathic murderer would send his own troops on a lie and then direct them to kill innocent women and children. That is fucking sick as shit!

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I got an idea at work today.

I know at least a couple of you guys live in D-FW.

Anyone want to carpool down to Crawford with a bucketful of old shoes?

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

No one but a psychopathic murderer would send his own troops on a lie and then direct them to kill innocent women and children.

Actually, it's quite normal for the President of the US to do such things.

[Kassad]

The United States of America does not exist to dictate international affairs. It isn't our job to say what is 'repressive', because based on that, random warmonger presidents can invade and occupy just about anybody because they say they are 'repressive.' Was Saddam bad? Definitely. Is it our job to topple dictators just because they're oppressive? No. We'd be in dozens of nations across the globe if that was the only justification we needed.

Still, Saddam's oppression was not even half the reason we went in. It was about profit and hegemony. Plain and simple.