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    http://mke.indymedia.org/en/2008/12/210532.shtml

    Here are pictures and names of some Neo-Nazis active in Wisconsin.


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    We at the ARA intelligence office spend a great deal of time researching fascist scum like the folks you'll find in this document. We decided to share some names and pictures with the public. These are Nazis active in the National Socialist Movement, who either live in, or spend a lot of time creeping around Wisconsin.

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    The NSM must not be doing too well...I recognize at least one of them from the National Socialist Movement march in Jefferson City, MO last month. Like, for real, you come from miles away to march with 20 other people in a state you don't even live in? I bet there was only like one or two cats there who were actually from Missouri.
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    Yeah, a number of their group photos include people from Chicago and Detroit and they were definitely in Missouri. Paul Kester-Paletti was recently found guilty of a hate crime assault, however, and is not allowed to have contact with white supremacist organizations.

    Might make his relationship with his wife tricky, as she is a unit leader...
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    Ugh, those pictures made me sick to my stomach knowing that that went on in my state.

    Luckily there aren't any in my town...
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    Check out the link in my signature for more nazi scum
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    Am I the only one who thinks the one on the left just knows this photo is a bad idea? Like "I hope this doesn't end up circulating around the town, people actually like me when I'm not denying the holocaust..."
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    Harriet? She's SE WI unit leader, I don't think open ties to these fucks bother her.
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    things like this scare me...whats stoping them using similar methods against us. Don't get me wrong, non of us have anything to be ashamed of, but this regardless may set presidenses. Those girls are very very stupid to be posting a picture of themselves online doing things like that, sure they deserve the obvious barage of abuse that will come to them due to this, but at the end of the day they are only simply silly little girls.
    Sure its not bad that you have info, just be carefull over what you release to the public as you never know how it could come back to you.
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    but at the end of the day they are only simply silly little girls.
    Who, with their other friends, get involved in fistfights outside of bars with people of color and beat them up. These people are dangerous when they get organized and outing them and shaming them is an effective way of countering that.

    Sure its not bad that you have info, just be carefull over what you release to the public as you never know how it could come back to you.
    Nazis are generally cowards, I'm not terribly worried about it. They've had my personal information before and nothing ever happened, I doubt it will now. And, if it does, I'm armed... not too worried.
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    Excuse my ignourance but whats the situation like in the USA? Im hearing alot of very bad things. Has the government or local councils been doing anything to help combat this seemingly rising far-right extremism? Im not saying that this is what happens in the UK (where i live), but if these groups of fascists are actually violent, then alarm bells should be ringing (thats aimed at the state and not you people who are obviously in the know). In my opinion, if they are investing millions on this so called war on terror, and anti-terrorist measures, mainly aimed at muslims, than the exact same should apply to nazis aswell. I mean when looking at the reports of those two young lads that plotted to kill Obama, they are rather hardcore. Call me uninformed and naive, but from what i'v seen from these European and American Nazis, they seem to be deluded and living in a fantasy land, and not really a danger. But despite the US having a right-wing back bone, i just find it difficult to grasp the fact that the youth of the USA is bringing itself to this. Theres neo-conservative which is bad and then theres Nazi. Where has it gone wrong?
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    That's like 12 poeple. I'm really not worried... the only thing the US has less of than serious left-wingers is fascists.

    Holoacust denial isn't llegal here or anything though, and a century ago the KKK was a serious threat but I'm not concerned in the least.
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    Excuse my ignourance but whats the situation like in the USA? Im hearing alot of very bad things. Has the government or local councils been doing anything to help combat this seemingly rising far-right extremism? Im not saying that this is what happens in the UK (where i live), but if these groups of fascists are actually violent, then alarm bells should be ringing (thats aimed at the state and not you people who are obviously in the know). In my opinion, if they are investing millions on this so called war on terror, and anti-terrorist measures, mainly aimed at muslims, than the exact same should apply to nazis aswell. I mean when looking at the reports of those two young lads that plotted to kill Obama, they are rather hardcore. Call me uninformed and naive, but from what i'v seen from these European and American Nazis, they seem to be deluded and living in a fantasy land, and not really a danger. But despite the US having a right-wing back bone, i just find it difficult to grasp the fact that the youth of the USA is bringing itself to this. Theres neo-conservative which is bad and then theres Nazi. Where has it gone wrong?
    It isn't so bad as you make out. Nazi groups have seen some growth recently and I'm guessing the Obama election will add a few more numbers, but they're still incredibly weak and find it nearly impossible to organize wherever they go.
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    I know all of them.
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    You would.
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    The troll who posted and whose posts I've edited was from Wisconsin according to his IP address.
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    Huh?
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    I'll try and phrase my response as err... diplomatically as possible.

    I see this action as a waste of time. These people are social outcasts/weirdos. One member, Paletti, punched a Mexican man and then did the Nazi salute against him. He was sentenced to two years probation for a misdemeanor battery as part of a plea agreement and also convicted of two misdemeanor counts of resisting an officer. So far as I can tell, he wasn't convicted of a 'hate crime.' Source.

    So, why you see it as your political objective to do the work of police officers is beyond me. That isn't to say that I disagree with someone being charged for assaulting someone else, I don't, but I don't see it as the role for a communist to waste his/her time on fighting social outcasts and weirdos in the name of... whatever.

    Seriously, you want to talk about 'fascists'; these are teenage goth girls and isolated losers. They're a pathetic non-issue.
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    I don't see knowing who the individuals who have personally threatened my friends are as a waste of time.
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    So? I've been threatened plenty of times for plenty of reasons. I don't make a political objective out of it. And if one of these goth Nazi girls threatened me, I would probably find it mildly amusing. And if I was frightened I wouldn't call up the ARA or whatever antifa group, or try to 'fight them back' but I'd probably... call the police! Nevertheless, my original point stands.
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    I don't believe they can ever become a meaningful political group that actually accomplishes their goals, but that doesn't mean they aren't dangerous. Organized racist and fascist groups are a threat to their community because, as you pointed out before, they already feel confident enough to start using violence when together as a group. Historically they've been capable of much worse the more organized they get and so we don't want to allow them get to that point. Naming and shaming them helps get them out of our community.

    Beyond that, I think you overestimate how much time and effort really goes into this. At most collecting info is something to do when suffering from some insomnia, or perhaps an hour or two at a coffee shop every couple of months. They're working on far more than this and, really, this is one of the least active projects in Wisconsin.
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