What aspect of facism makes your blood boil the most?

[wasteman]

Probably the fact that it makes socialists want to "kick in a few heads", and thus diverts the international workers' movement.

[LOLseph Stalin]

u know... something that makes you wanna kick in a few heads

For me it has to be when they try to sell their views to the voters like its acceptable these days

I know this is a trait specific to Nazism, but I have to say the whole genocidal "master race" thing.

Oh and the fact that they try to appeal to the workers, but make no real changes to help them.

[Melbourne Lefty]

but the thing that kills me the most aobut facists is the total stupid and one side arguements they use.

Yeah cos thats something you never see in the sectarian arguments of the left...

[redSHARP]

Yeah cos thats something you never see in the sectarian arguments of the left...

okay, point taken.

but seriously every point they make involves "white race" or communism ruins everything. it never changes and it is like a broken record!

[Dóchas]

So your racist against whites?

yes thats exactly what im saying you've got me

[Operator]

The worst thing is when so called anti-fascists state they believe in the "no-platform policy" which is fascism in itself, as is the comment made by the original poster about "kicking in a few heads."
That's not very democratic now, is it?

[#FF0000]

The worst thing is when so called anti-fascists state they believe in the "no-platform policy" which is fascism in itself, as is the comment made by the original poster about "kicking in a few heads."
That's not very democratic now, is it?

A "no-platform" policy supports nationalism, class collaboration, a mixed economy, and strict hierarchy?

Oh, my mistake. You just don't know what Fascism is and use it as an insult without realizing it's a specific political tendency. My bad.

[Operator]

A "no-platform" policy supports nationalism, class collaboration, a mixed economy, and strict hierarchy?

Oh, my mistake. You just don't know what Fascism is and use it as an insult without realizing it's a specific political tendency. My bad.

Fascism prioritises the state/nation over individual liberties. A no-platform policy restrics the individuals freedom of speech, thus suggesting an essence of fascism, nomatter the good will behind the idea.

[Melbourne Lefty]

but seriously every point they make involves "white race" or communism ruins everything. it never changes and it is like a broken record

Its the centre of their worldview, thats like saying that we talk about 'class' like a broken record. We talk about it because we consider it important. The most important thing in the world in fact.

They feel the same way about their beliefs, christians feel the same about Jesus and Muslims about Allah.

We all have our little obsessions, everyone looks irrational until you step outside your own worldview for a moment and examine the [obviously false!] worldviews of others.

[Sasha]

That's not very democratic now, is it?

you seem unaware that this is an site dedicated to revolutionary leftism, allthough we are in majority non-bolshevic we are not democrats in the western parlementairy sense of the word.
please piss off and take you'r "enlighted" liberalism with you.

athens? this is sparta!

[Fietsketting]

The worst thing is when so called anti-fascists state they believe in the "no-platform policy" which is fascism in itself, as is the comment made by the original poster about "kicking in a few heads."
That's not very democratic now, is it?

Whats up with the Hammerskins logo? :/

[wigsa]

The cowardice that European fascists and nazis tend to have when they gang up on some poor,ageing black/arab man/woman and kick the fuck out of them,when they have absolutely no chance to fight back and defend themselves at all.I've seen videos of them attacking women,and ganging up on frail looking men in groups of 7 and 8 and beating them to a pulp.And they won't even use fists like men,they use their fucking big black skinhead boots.It's sickening.

That's what makes me wanna kick in a few heads and I hope I get to do that in Ireland in the near future,although it is a positive thing that white nationalism hasn't taken off yet but the feeling here is that due to the growing unemployment due to the recesssion,a movement will gather momentum soon enough.

[Killfacer]

Fascism prioritises the state/nation over individual liberties. A no-platform policy restrics the individuals freedom of speech, thus suggesting an essence of fascism, nomatter the good will behind the idea.

That's a stupid, divisive idea. Firstly i don't see how "no platformists" are anything like facists. In fact they hate them so much, that they will do the most effective things in their power to stop them; refuse them a platform from which to spout their vile propaganda.

Do you think that if Hitler had been denied a platform from which to preach, then he would of gained such huge popularity? No, clearly he wouldn't.

The problem with the above example and "no platformism" in general is that it is pretty difficult to implement in practice. How do you stop a perfectly legitimate party such as the BNP (admittedly not as bad as the NSDAP) from spouting shit? Its very difficult, particuarly when they are protected by the police and the law in general. It's easy enough to stop skinhead knuckle draggers getting a platform, they destroy the platform they're standing on with their stupidity but insidious suit wearing freaks like Nick Griffin are a harder problem.

[Pogue]

The slimyness, the perviness, the anger they seem to radiate, obviously the arguments and their general idiocy.

I find their use of the word 'reds' as an insult more comical than insulting because it just doesn't have any effect. "Red scum". Lol, no effect.

I hate, like others here said, how they hide behind 'free speech' and all that. I hate how they blame everything on immigration. I haven't really met any genuine fascists though, just racists, most of whom wouldn't vote BNP but have said they're inclined to that way of thinking. They're so fucking generic - Immigrants this, Britains gone to the dogs that. Such wank.

They just generally disgust me. Everything about them is just dirty to me. The whole superior white race bollocks, the hatred they spew out. They're just so angry, arogant and dum, which is an annoying combination.

I hate how they seem to get through to some people, with shit like Nick Griffin's 'Truth Truck', better know as the 'Lie Lorry'. What a fucking mug he is. I hate how they still persist and some people listen despite all the evidence against them.

[ZeroNowhere]

They're white.

Hey, if they can do it...

[Operator]

That's a stupid, divisive idea. Firstly i don't see how "no platformists" are anything like facists. In fact they hate them so much, that they will do the most effective things in their power to stop them; refuse them a platform from which to spout their vile propaganda.

Do you think that if Hitler had been denied a platform from which to preach, then he would of gained such huge popularity? No, clearly he wouldn't.

The problem with the above example and "no platformism" in general is that it is pretty difficult to implement in practice. How do you stop a perfectly legitimate party such as the BNP (admittedly not as bad as the NSDAP) from spouting shit? Its very difficult, particuarly when they are protected by the police and the law in general. It's easy enough to stop skinhead knuckle draggers getting a platform, they destroy the platform they're standing on with their stupidity but insidious suit wearing freaks like Nick Griffin are a harder problem.

It's all well and good advocating the 'no-platform' idea when one looks at what could've been avoided with regards to Adolf Hitler, but what if Martin Luther King, for example, was denied a platform? Or other such 'positive' figures?

There cannot be one rule for some and another for others, that too is fascism.

Let the BNP speak. Give the British people a choice. I have faith that they will make the right decision. Rather than silencing them, why don't the left counter them?That is what gains respect and votes.

[Operator]

you seem unaware that this is an site dedicated to revolutionary leftism, allthough we are in majority non-bolshevic we are not democrats in the western parlementairy sense of the word.
please piss off and take you'r "enlighted" liberalism with you.

athens? this is sparta!

A revolution does not necessarily need to use undemocratic means, and may I remind you that advocating violence is against the law...

[Operator]

Whats up with the Hammerskins logo? :/

I'm a Floyd fan
I find it interesting how the rise of Pink is portrayed in 'The Wall'..It just holds some meaning to me.

[Sean]

It's all well and good advocating the 'no-platform' idea when one looks at what could've been avoided with regards to Adolf Hitler, but what if Martin Luther King, for example, was denied a platform? Or other such 'positive' figures?

There cannot be one rule for some and another for others, that too is fascism.

Let the BNP speak. Give the British people a choice. I have faith that they will make the right decision. Rather than silencing them, why don't the left counter them?That is what gains respect and votes.

Letting the BNP speak is an exercise in free speech in the same was screaming fire in a packed theatre is. Their ramblings and inferring genuinely put the lives of people in danger.
And while it has been argued before that time and effort would be better spent forming a strong alternative party to the BNP, that doesn't remove the fascist, racist scum from the equation. Voltaire can go jump on this one!

[Operator]

Letting the BNP speak is an exercise in free speech in the same was screaming fire in a packed theatre is. Their ramblings and inferring genuinely put the lives of people in danger.

Where is there any evidence of this?

And while it has been argued before that time and effort would be better spent forming a strong alternative party to the BNP, that doesn't remove the fascist, racist scum from the equation. Voltaire can go jump on this one!

Strong opposition would completely marginalise and eventually eliminate counter-parties. Unless ofcourse, the British people actually want the BNP!