We are the anarchic revolution

[spartakus]

WHY THE BEST MINDS IN HISTORY ALWAYS LIVE IN POVERTY, AND ON HOW TO EXPOSE THE FAKE ANARCHISTS AND STILL DESTROY THE STATE AND CAPITALISM

Why must always the best minds and human genius live in extreme poverty and persecution whilst the dummies and most corrupt individuals get always all the power and all the privileges. The answer is because the system is anti-human and corrupt; this is the nature of capitalism and what we have to destroy.
Capitalism is a sick system that devours the people, turning the whole of humanity into a sick humanity. All the capitalists are extremely sick individuals and have sociopath personalities.
The people have always paid a heavy price, called slavery; people are lead everywhere like sheep to the slaughter (exploitation). The people are turned into slaves to serve the rich rulers. The people are the slaves working for others profit, the moderrn slave. This slave democracy is a tragic joke; capitalism is a form of slavery, a very primitive social relation that must be dismantled as soon as possible.
The money-state-nation system must end, unless we want to continue this global and historical mass torture. The rich just want to rule us and keep the capitalist system running on borrowed time, we must rebel and insurrect against this. We want to be free now not tomorrow, we want to be free whilst we are still alive not when we are dead.
We need an anarchic revolution in our life time and we have to destroy the state, capitalism and religion immediately. Most people follow blindly their leaders and rulers, most people know nothing about the truths behind things like the nation-state and class, or the truth about capitalism and patriotism, the people are still very ignorant of reality and life.
This is why we did not have a revolution yet, this why capitalism and the state still thrives on the misery of the masses. But in the coming near future this condition can suddenly change, a leap from quantity to the qualitative. Humanity is going to wake up some day soon and rise in their might against authority and hierarchy and bring the whole system down for ever never to be repeated. This uprising is called the anarchic revolution orchestrated by the people and for the people. All decisions will be made only by us the people and no one else and who refuse to continue and remain eternal slaves of the system and servants to its masters. We are going to become totally free, for the first time in human history, it took a very long time to achieve, so much suffering and misery, so may horrors and tragedies but the end to all this is near. At last the whole people can live in dignity and richness and genuine material peace.
We declare the start of the anarchic revolution as from now, lead and directed solely by us and no one else. We must be careful of enemy penetration from all directions. The first step will be the termination of capitalism and the nation state, the second step we must make sure that we don’t become a pathetic anarchic movement dominated by rubbish people calling themselves with all sorts of anarchism. There is only one kind of anarchy; all the rest is a reactionary attempt to control our half clandestine anarchic movement.

[FONT=Verdana]1- [/FONT]The abolishing of money and leadership
[FONT=Verdana]2- [/FONT]The termination of the state and authority
[FONT=Verdana]3- [/FONT]The end of ownership of the planet by few individuals
[FONT=Verdana]4- [/FONT]Termination of inheritance and the ownership of land and property
[FONT=Verdana]5- [/FONT]The abolishment of class and hierarchy

The revolution is called the individualist communist anarchy and this will be replacing capitalism soon. We are against all kind of fake individuals calling themselves anarchists of a sick sort, trying to cash on a very successful movement. Be ware of all nationalism and chauvinism, capitalists and religious people, be ware of those searching for authority in one form or another in the name of anarchy. All infiltrations into the anarchist movement will be exposed and kicked out by me personally and by my fellow comrades. We don’t tolerate Nazis of any sort and in what ever disguise; they will be physically stopped and given a concrete massage. We should not allow these various reactionary groups take over the anarchic movement, they are desperate to do this, some are sent by the state and its security agency. Destroy the reactionary forces everywhere, anarchy will compel them to retreat to their caves and stay there till further notice.
The nightmare is already with us, if that is not understood then that is the revolution, and that is the solution to the problem, the only way out this nightmare is an egalitarian revolution.

Spartacus Anarchus

[spartakus]

The Proletarian Who Changed The World

Mass communication is in the written word and the spoken word, artistic communication. We are reaching a breaking point, the zenith of crises, the culmination of antagonistic conflict and the limits of contradictions. The people of the world are in a pause, waiting for defrosting and the return of life. Anarchy is on the horizon, the revolution is on its way and we must be there and fully participate and lead our destiny to where we want it be.
The human condition is very bad, nearly all the people are weak and submissive everywhere, this is why we anarchists must start the social revolution which will eventually bring about the full participation of the people. Don’t let anyone or anything put you down, don’t allow them (the system) to put you off the revolution.
That’s it – this is revolution time, this is the coming anarchy. Let’s start our liberation, the revolution has begun. Life is short and hard as it is, lets’ not waste any more time; let’s begin our freedom now, wherever we are. Life without freedom is like life without love. Break loose from this capitalist hell and self-determine yourselves towards a much better way of existence.
We are going to live our lives to the full, nothing is going to stop us, and we are going to remain as a thorn in the throat of capitalism until its demise.
Our revolution is getting bigger and wider, its growing by the day and no force on earth is capable of halting its march towards its own liberation. Not the army and the police, not the state and it security can stop this one; it is simply beyond their reach, far beyond them all.
There is only one revolution and it is called anarchy for all. Liberation begins at the bottom of the pyramid, with the most oppressed and with the poorest sections of society. The death of capitalism is near, near enough for a revolution to start already, an anarcho-social revolution on a global scale, to replace capitalism and its state once and for all with a total anarchy.

Spartacus Anarchus – Too Dark

An Urgent Message To All Revolutionary Anarchists

The revolution is coming, it is on its way, the people are beginning to wish and wait for it. This time it is going to happen, unlike before this revolution will succeed. The next revolution is going to bring down capitalism and its states. It will be the end to all hierarchies and authority, at last anarchy will prevail.
It is always those who have nothing at all that create something whilst those who have everything do nothing but exploit and profit. All the people on earth are very miserable and very unhappy and the rich can never be happy in a very unhappy world. But the rich don’t seek happiness which they know that can never get so instead they seek power and control and privilege. The poor of the world (85%) seek mere physical survival, and things are not going well, survival is getting harder and harder to sustain.
The anarchic revolution moves only forward, one directional process, never stops and never retreats, it is progress in action, the process of liberation of humanity for the first time. There is a limit to how long capitalism and the state can last, the final stage of the system is near, capital and the state will disappear very soon and the final empire will fall.
The anarchic revolution is the natural continuation during and after the death of capital and the state. The anarchic society will replace the capitalist society and instead of money, class and authority, we will have a real material freedom, abundance for all and mass happiness.
Capitalism is not going to last forever, it is going to collapse on its own accord, and it is an inevitable process of irresolvable contradictions, capitalism is on its knees begging for more time. We are prepared and ready to bring the final blow and knockout capitalism of the historical arena and build in its place a humane and just anarchic society and create a healthy planet and a healthy humanity. Anarchy will guarantee the continuous survival and existence of a free and equal human race for a very long time.
WHY IS THE REVOLUTION COMING

[FONT=Verdana]1) [/FONT]The dialectical process is a dead end process, the mother of all contradictions resolved.
[FONT=Verdana]2) [/FONT]The submissiveness of the masses and the fear of knowledge.
[FONT=Verdana]3) [/FONT]The chronic weakness of the left.
[FONT=Verdana]4) [/FONT]The slow development of the anarchic movement.

The capitalist nation-state system must fall soon and disappear forever. During the collapse of the system an anarchic alternative will be built. The capitalist nation-state will be replaced by anarchy and an anarchic society.
The people of the world will eventually rebel, they have no other choice. They are not ready yet but soon they well rise in their might, the social revolution will happen when the people are ready for it and want it.
So we have to continue in our multi-leveled activity and clandestine operation until the people are emancipated and participating in the making of the Anarcho-social revolution in the world. Without peoples emancipation there will not be a revolution ever. People must start independently think before they can think of revolting.
The anarchists intervention in the social matrix and it subversion brings the revolutionary momentum nearer in the future.
Anarchist action never cease, the anarchist is always in action, subverting everything s/he touches in a semi-secret total operation.
Gradually all the seven billion people of the world will turn anarchists and live in an anarchic “civilization”, the first anarchic planet will appear and it will last for thousands of years. When the majority of the people become conscious that’s when the revolution begins, emancipation is a must.
There is not one justification for the contiguous existence of capitalism and its nation-state. There time is over, now its time for anarchy. There is no one reason why this system must be allowed to exist even a minute longer. It is a criminal system based on subhuman foundation, the capitalist authority foundation, this must be destroyed.
The capitalist system is a brutal and a vicious system designed for the exploitation and oppression of the people and the planet. It must go and very quickly before it causes more harm and irreversible damage. Most of the people of earth, more than 95% of the world population suffer daily and directly from capitalism and its states. This anti-human modern salve system must be stopped and dismantled and its masters fired, and in its place will build healthy equal and happy anarchic society. This will be achieved through an “unarmed” social revolution.

We will live instead in an anarchic society without capital and the rich and without the police and the army and the politicians, all these are negative relics of the past and must be put to where they belong to, the sewer of history.
All I know is that the revolution is coming our way lets reclaim it.
Spartacus Anarchus

BREAK THE BARRIER AND SET YOURSELVES FREE[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
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Capitalism is collapsing everywhere; the state is in its final period. The revolution has begun. The capitalist social relations will be replaced by an anarchic social-relation.[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
Capitalism will totally collapse at the beginning of the 21st century. The state will crumble with the collapse of the whole capitalist economic system and it “values”, the state will disappear for ever from the face of the planet.[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
At last freedom will prevail, humanity’s dream come true after thousands of years of struggling and waiting.[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
After the collapse of the capitalist politico-economical system and the destruction of the state, a new episode in human existence begins. [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
A new form of social –relations will replace the alienated slave and feudal relations, capitalism is a mental disease, and it infects everyone, i.e., alienated capitalist relations. This will lead to the start of the anarchic era, the start of anarchic, individualist and communist social relations based on total anarchy and total equality.[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
All the terms used are always historically temporary; we develop our truths as we grew up, and rebel against this bloody and brutally exploitative system.[FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT]
The anarchic social revolution will transform humanity from a nation-state capitalist way of life to an anarchic global existence. Then revolution is on its way, it develops as capitalism collapses, it grows as the nation-state dies and fall. We are all anarchists except for the anti-humans, this is the internet mass shock, this is an internet hand grenade, and this is Spartacus Anarchus – 2008 –

[RedSabine]

I like the enthusiasm, but there is no plan. We cannot simply go from revolution to awesomeworldwheredeersletyouridethem-land. So I suggest look for more practical application of this rhetoric.

[ckaihatsu]

Capitalism is not going to last forever, it is going to collapse on its own accord, and it is an inevitable process of irresolvable contradictions, capitalism is on its knees begging for more time.

Capitalism will totally collapse at the beginning of the 21st century. The state will crumble with the collapse of the whole capitalist economic system and it “values”, the state will disappear for ever from the face of the planet.

Everyone should be taking a look at the Business section of the news every so often these days. We're seeing a massive crisis of capital itself -- bank deposits have become so over-leveraged, through fractional reserve lending (fictitious capital) that the capitalists themselves can't figure out which end is up anymore. Here's the latest Dow Jones Index figures, which is a good measure of the confidence of major businesses going forward into the future. Note that the last TEN YEARS of gains have already been wiped out, at least -- and there's more (less) to come!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5ED...off&z=l&q=l&c=

(A basic illustration is that it's like hitting an oil deposit in the early days -- you can sell oil that you haven't even gotten to yet, and that you're not even sure you have, as long as the oil continues to flow in. Once the oil dries up you may have oversold it and so you're not sure what the value is of the oil that you *do* have left because so many people are arguing that it belongs to them alone. What you *do* know is that you're fucked because there's no way to fill orders that are beyond 100% of what you actually have. So at least you know that you're going to get less than 100% of the selling price because it's oversold. And now no one is sure who owns what anymore because of several, competing claims to the same oil. If there's deadlock for a period of time then the competition benefits by getting in on the game while everyone's standing around and no one's the boss anymore.)

Capitalism is a sick system that devours the people, turning the whole of humanity into a sick humanity. All the capitalists are extremely sick individuals and have sociopath personalities.
The people have always paid a heavy price, called slavery;

To be a good capitalist you necessarily have to forfeit a good portion of your humanity and instead become the consciousness of property itself. Sacrificing one's own individuality and free choice-making is the key to being able to think in the best interests of property so that the right decisions can be made in the direction of profit. This is an all-inclusive transformation of the person into the bourgeoisie, and it's on a 24/7 basis.

I like the enthusiasm, but there is no plan. We cannot simply go from revolution to awesomeworldwheredeersletyouridethem-land. So I suggest look for more practical application of this rhetoric.

Check out this thread (which you've already posted at, so you *do* know already):

"The workings of a planned economy"

http://www.revleft.com/vb/workings-p...505/index.html


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[spartakus]

WHY THE BEST MINDS IN HISTORY ALWAYS LIVE IN POVERTY, AND ON HOW TO EXPOSE THE FAKE ANARCHISTS AND STILL DESTROY THE STATE AND CAPITALISM

Why must always the best minds and human genius live in extreme poverty and persecution whilst the dummies and most corrupt individuals get always all the power and all the privileges. The answer is because the system is anti-human and corrupt; this is the nature of capitalism and what we have to destroy.
Capitalism is a sick system that devours the people, turning the whole of humanity into a sick humanity. All the capitalists are extremely sick individuals and have sociopath personalities.
The people have always paid a heavy price, called slavery; people are lead everywhere like sheep to the slaughter (exploitation). The people are turned into slaves to serve the rich rulers. The people are the slaves working for others profit, the moderrn slave. This slave democracy is a tragic joke; capitalism is a form of slavery, a very primitive social relation that must be dismantled as soon as possible.
The money-state-nation system must end, unless we want to continue this global and historical mass torture. The rich just want to rule us and keep the capitalist system running on borrowed time, we must rebel and insurrect against this. We want to be free now not tomorrow, we want to be free whilst we are still alive not when we are dead.
We need an anarchic revolution in our life time and we have to destroy the state, capitalism and religion immediately. Most people follow blindly their leaders and rulers, most people know nothing about the truths behind things like the nation-state and class, or the truth about capitalism and patriotism, the people are still very ignorant of reality and life.
This is why we did not have a revolution yet, this why capitalism and the state still thrives on the misery of the masses. But in the coming near future this condition can suddenly change, a leap from quantity to the qualitative. Humanity is going to wake up some day soon and rise in their might against authority and hierarchy and bring the whole system down for ever never to be repeated. This uprising is called the anarchic revolution orchestrated by the people and for the people. All decisions will be made only by us the people and no one else and who refuse to continue and remain eternal slaves of the system and servants to its masters. We are going to become totally free, for the first time in human history, it took a very long time to achieve, so much suffering and misery, so may horrors and tragedies but the end to all this is near. At last the whole people can live in dignity and richness and genuine material peace.
We declare the start of the anarchic revolution as from now, lead and directed solely by us and no one else. We must be careful of enemy penetration from all directions. The first step will be the termination of capitalism and the nation state, the second step we must make sure that we don’t become a pathetic anarchic movement dominated by rubbish people calling themselves with all sorts of anarchism. There is only one kind of anarchy; all the rest is a reactionary attempt to control our half clandestine anarchic movement.

[FONT=Verdana]1- [/FONT]The abolishing of money and leadership
[FONT=Verdana]2- [/FONT]The termination of the state and authority
[FONT=Verdana]3- [/FONT]The end of ownership of the planet by few individuals
[FONT=Verdana]4- [/FONT]Termination of inheritance and the ownership of land and property
[FONT=Verdana]5- [/FONT]The abolishment of class and hierarchy

The revolution is called the individualist communist anarchy and this will be replacing capitalism soon. We are against all kind of fake individuals calling themselves anarchists of a sick sort, trying to cash on a very successful movement. Be ware of all nationalism and chauvinism, capitalists and religious people, be ware of those searching for authority in one form or another in the name of anarchy. All infiltrations into the anarchist movement will be exposed and kicked out by me personally and by my fellow comrades. We don’t tolerate Nazis of any sort and in what ever disguise; they will be physically stopped and given a concrete massage. We should not allow these various reactionary groups take over the anarchic movement, they are desperate to do this, some are sent by the state and its security agency. Destroy the reactionary forces everywhere, anarchy will compel them to retreat to their caves and stay there till further notice.
The nightmare is already with us, if that is not understood then that is the revolution, and that is the solution to the problem, the only way out this nightmare is an egalitarian revolution.

Spartacus Anarchus

WHY THE REVOLUTION HAS NOT HAPPENED YET - THIS IS A COMMUNICATION ON A MASS SCALE BY THE VERBAL – THE WRITTEN - AND BY DEED

[FONT=Verdana]1) [/FONT]The lack of readiness on behalf of the population.
[FONT=Verdana]2) [/FONT]The weakness of the anarchic movement.
[FONT=Verdana]3) [/FONT]Too much false and fake anarchism.
[FONT=Verdana]4) [/FONT]My own personal economic limitation.
[FONT=Verdana]5) [/FONT]The lack of anarcho-theoretical maturation.
[FONT=Verdana]6) [/FONT]State dictatorship.

All the leaders of all nations are potential fascist dictators and the lead; those who follow leaders are little Nazis worshipping their idols.
My desire is to destroy the state and the capitalist system once and for all. My passion is to destroy class division and in its place build a classless society. My need is to be free and equal with others, so we could live creative and happy life unlike today.
Revolutionary people must unite against their main enemy, the capitalist-state system. We must dismantle the whole hierarchical system and put instead a meta-system of anti-capitalist distribution.
People must overcome their oppression by fighting back and take power to destroy it. To overcome this mass alienation and chronic apathy and helplessness we must rebel and revolt against all authority, ideologies and regimes. We must also kick out all the leaders and bosses and fire all the clerical parasites of all sorts, and expel all the control maniacs of the system.
The day will come when we will bring the system down, that day is not far when we will dismantle the whole thing and throw it to where it belongs, to the garbage of history.
Our time has come, our freedom and liberation from capitalism and its state is nearer than ever before, the anarchic revolution is on its way, please get out and participate in your self-determination and self-governance. The question is not where will the revolution start, or weather it will happen at all, but when. The answer to this is that it is starting from now, from today, everywhere. Will I live in an anarchic world before I die, because if we fail we shell live under permanent obedience and control?
The future is either anarchic or fascist, pick your choice – will we be able to rescue humanity and planet nature before it is too late? Can we save us from total destruction by capitalism and its power house the state? Only anarchy can achieve all this, only anarchy can save us from our fait and save the planet from the system predators.
Join the anarchic revolution now
Spartacus anarchus 2008

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NOW IT IS THE TIME FOR THE ANARCHIC SOCIAL REVOLUTION

There is a double massage in this article, one that is directed to the negative and reactionary forces of capitalism and the nation-state and the other which is directed to the positive elements of anarchy.
Capitalism was created by slavery and the nation-state was established to protect and enrich the ruling minority. Capitalism, the nation-state, religion, morality are made by the ruling minority through history and manifested and expanded through occupation and the enslaving of the whole population and abusing the planet.
The people must become people again which they have lost in the course of a very oppressive and enslaving history. They must want freedom again, freedom from control and labor.
I would like to use this opportunity to thank those who did send me some donation, thanks very much, your money is going to be used solely for the destruction of capitalism and the state and the creation of an anarchic society. I shell also use this opportunity to tell my readership at the many forums I write, that I will relate and reply to each commentator i.e., the long awaited dialogue and because of which I was often banned from forums.
So this is how it goes, and this is how an anarchic social revolution will come into existence, by us and for us the people of the world. We are the billions who are sick of being poor and exploited; we are sick of suffering and dying for the rich and powerful. We are fighting back now and we shell win. We are all waiting just for more people to join our revolution for freedom and anarchy. We have suffered severely in the last 7000 years it is time now to change all this and reverse history and the future, making time work for us and not against us. Now the time has come to practice our theory and manifest our ideas by turning it into a reality.
We don’t want capitalism and the state, we want to destroy them immediately, and we don’t want to live in poverty any more so they can get richer and richer at our expense and life. We don’t want bosses and workers no more, we want dismantle the whole thing at the outbreak of the anarchist revolution, which is coming our way in huge strides.
This the end of capitalism and an to the state, no more religious lies and hypocritical morality which is designed to stultify you and increase your fear, what the system needs is an obedient citizen-servant submissive to every order. Nationalism is racism, a cover-up for extending capitalism by divide and rule.

Spartacus anarchus

Analysis of the Anarchic situation in Europe and North America

2009 – 2010 (Anarchy Time)

[FONT=Verdana]1) [/FONT]Why don’t we have a revolution today?
[FONT=Verdana]2) [/FONT]Why did all the revolutions have failed in the past?
[FONT=Verdana]3) [/FONT]When will the next revolution happen if at all?
[FONT=Verdana]4) [/FONT]Will the final revolution come about as a result of the collapse of capitalism or will it come about because of anarchist persistence and resistance?

The answer to these questions is really very simple. Our anarchist past was incomplete and the conditions then were wrong and undeveloped. Our present is still incomplete yet the conditions are extremely right and ripe. Our future is optimistic; we will have the complete thing and the correct conditions at last at the same time. The social revolution will erupt creating a long lasting anarchic civilization.
In the future we are going to have a happy and free anarchic society, an anarchic world. So let’s have a new happy revolution and let’s make the final year of the decade of the 21st century (2009-2010), be the final year of capitalism, religious nationalism and the state.
Freedom is our only force, but you cannot force it upon the slaves, upon the others, it must come from within, we can only inspire the salve to desire freedom and eventually agree to fight for it. The people must want freedom first before they will be able to rebel and insurrect. People must want real equity for a social revolution to take place. Without this capitalism will last for ever.

Now it is the time to inspire the masses and bring about the anarchic revolution closer to “home”. We will cause the Anarchic revolution to happen on a massive scale, putting the final nail in the coffin of capitalism and the state. We will accelerate the process of rebellion and insurrection amongst the people and bring to an end this brutal and superfluous system.

Capitalism and the nation-state will be thrown into the sewers where it naturally belongs, clearing the planet for a incomparably better and happier future for the whole of humanity. We can do it now, we can succeed in where all the pervious revolutions have failed, not because we are better than the anarchists of the past but because only now the objective conditions for a global revolution is fully ripe. So let’s declare the revolution open, open to all the free people of the world, in actuality we have already started.

If anarchy is alive it will grow and encompass the world and if it is dead we will disappear altogether, happy stupid Christmas and happy new anarchic year.

Greetings to all the anarchists in Greece for their fantastic job >>> (may the year 2009 be an anarchic year + click to kill capitalism)
Greetings also to the Israeli anarchists fighting alongside the Palestinians … fuck all religions
Greeting to all the anarchists of the world fighting relentlessly against the system and its oppression
Spartacus Anarchus.

[mikelepore]

[FONT=Verdana]2- [/FONT]The termination of the state and authority

I will object, as often as it necessary for me to say it, that the anarchist goal of getting rid of "authority", or, as some say it, geting rid of "coercion", is based solely on an untestable claim about human nature. It assumes that, once society adopts a new administrative system, no one would ever again choose to murder or rape anyone, and therefore a need for formal institutional power and authority no longer exists. This is based on the "perfectibility of man" hypothesis of Rousseau romanticism, which snuck into early socialist literature via the 19th century utopians. It's a distraction which has no validity. I expect that the most perfected classless society of the future will quickly learn that it needs law-making representatives, police, trials and jails. Authority or coercion can be diminished in their necessary magnitudes, but never eliminated in a thousand years.

[ckaihatsu]

[T]his point deals with the difference between anarchism and communism. What is the relationship to be between the majority and the minority, in a post-capitalist society? Anarchists would vehemently say that they could go off in their own direction, as you've laid out, without needing any larger, overarching structure / government.

I'm cross-posting this to these two threads which are covering similar ground:

Opposing Ideologies > obligatory labor...lets discuss about it shall we?

Theory > We are the anarchic revolution

I will object, as often as it necessary for me to say it, that the anarchist goal of getting rid of "authority", or, as some say it, geting rid of "coercion", is based solely on an untestable claim about human nature. It assumes that, once society adopts a new administrative system, no one would ever again choose to murder or rape anyone, and therefore a need for formal institutional power and authority no longer exists. This is based on the "perfectibility of man" hypothesis of Rousseau romanticism, which snuck into early socialist literature via the 19th century utopians. It's a distraction which has no validity. I expect that the most perfected classless society of the future will quickly learn that it needs law-making representatives, police, trials and jails. Authority or coercion can be diminished in their necessary magnitudes, but never eliminated in a thousand years.

I don't think a communist would actually disagree either. Your post sort of probes into the whole structure of Soviet Democracy, and you've outlayed a couple of interesting points which I'll try to cover. However, I think both communists and Anarchists would be fine with a group of people "going off in their own direction" if it was evident that it would be a beneficial move.

Well, let's look at how a society could be structured first. Say for example, you have commune A. Commune A is made up of a group of people who collectively share legislative and executive powers to run their commune. They can choose to have a constitution, they can choose not to; but it is their choice collectively.

If Commune A feel it necessary, they can collectively decide to have an agreement, or law, that murder shouldn't be allowed, for example. They can even go so far as to allow it to be punishable, and they could decide who would carry out this punishment. Also, commune A can select a delegate to represent them in a larger body for collaberation with other communes and so on. But these delegates will be recallable at all times to make sure their interests are being accurately represented. If, for example, a person doesn't agree with the rules of a specific commune, he can either hope to change his commune through democratic means, or move to another where the change has already taken place.

Now, all good and well so far you might say, but what if we introduce commune B and C? For whatever reason, A and B have fallen out, and violence may ensue, is it morally acceptable for C to step in and help find a solution? I think intervention is perfectly fine, and in fact morally necessary to keep the peace between the communes. This may also end up being one of the most important functions of the delegates I have pointed out earlier, along with allocation of resources to other communes etc.

So, I don't know if I made my point any clearer, but basically, I think democracy should reign supreme. Your response seems to indicate that you may in fact prefer individual autonomy over democracy in some instances, so this may be the point of contention between us.

I actually think that a close-knit, materially abundant, classless society *would* eliminate virtually all of the remaining anti-social urges people may have. The whole category of crime is societally produced, so the elimination of the profit motive, need, want, and alienation would eliminate inhumane motivations altogether. This isn't a Romantic formulation, either.

The way in which various groupings interact with each other, and with the larger, communist economy is important to me, but I guess at this point we can only *speculate* about its structure. I don't mean to take up much time with guesswork, but I'd imagine some interlocking system of local administrations would emerge, with a recallable meta-administration emerging from that.

[spartakus]

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State Capitalist Violence

The End of Capitalism and the Dismantlement of the USA

The Nation-State Capitalism in all its national-religious and ethnic verities shows its true face. A good example of this is the Zionist-capitalist organization that is called Israel. Every state is capitalist and every capitalist needs a state. Kill, kill, kill is the name of the capitalist-military-state game. The Americans killed millions of Vietnamese as to prevent them from becoming communists, and the Vietnamese killed thousands of American soldiers as to prevent them from becoming capitalists. The same is happening today with Arabs and Muslims. America is killing lots of Afghanis and Iraqis as to prevent them from becoming terrorists and the jihads kills American and British soldiers as to stop them from becoming imperialists. Israel is killing Palestinian refugees in mass as to stop them from becoming suicide bombers and the Palestinians resistance is killing Israeli soldiers as to prevent from becoming neo-colonialist.
The USA and Israel are a very good example on how the modern religious-nation state operates and which in other word it means capitalism.
What the USA has been and still doing all over the world is what Israel has exactly done and still doing in the Middle East and beyond.
Killing is profitable for capitalism because life is cheap as a commodity, the business of killing is the military industrial complex that circulate trillions of dollars worth of capital, no wonder that each state has more than one army and always fully ready and equipped.
War and poverty is the true nature of the system, the war against all and everywhere, internally and externally by the army and police and ordered by the rulers of the state.
If we destroy capitalism and its state system we will immediately end the phenomenon of war, poverty and all the versions of violence, and it will be also an end too all exploitation and oppression worldwide.
How will we achieve the destruction of the capitalist system with its nation-states? The answer is the Meta-system alternative of the Anarcho-Communist Individualist social revolution.
Now the system is killing Afghanis, Iraqis and Palestinians so what guarantee do you have that they want turn on you one day. Why should not they start killing you some day not in the far future? They don’t want to fall alone; they want to take down with them as many people as they succeed. First they kill the poorest people and then comes the turn of the lower classes, killing the poor people and extracting profits from the remaining is the mode of state-capitalist behavior. Catastrophe capitalism is the final stage of capitalism on the historical arena.
To stop killing we must stop capitalism, capitalism is based on killing and occupying and enslaving, by elimination the state and capitalism we terminate the phenomenon of killing, exploitation and violence. The dismantling of the USA and Israel is the beginning of the dismantlement of the entire capitalist system itself. The early collapse of these heavily militarized states will bring the domino effect into action, i.e., the end of the nation-state and capitalism.
This is coming about from two differently distinct sources, the one is historically objective and the other is from anarchism. Capitalism is its own grave digger whilst anarchists only catalyze the process. The social anarchic revolution that is happening now is going to replace the state and capitalism everywhere. The termination of this long overdue brutal and anti-human system will be accomplished by us the anarchists and our supporters; we are now the makers of the contemporary global and social revolution that is based on the meta-theory of anarcho-communist individualism.
World revolutions lead by the oppressed against their oppressors, by the exploited against their exploiters, by the ruled against their rulers, the slaves and servants against their masters. This brutish fucked up system must go, and go it must fast; this brute force and coercion must stop for ever if we want to live as human beings on this planet. This mass intentional impoverishment of the people must end now and stop any further unnecessary suffering and hardship. The lower classes will rise against the upper classes and destroy the whole class system with its Judo-Christian morality and all authority and hierarchy. The state and economy must be halted and destroyed before it destroys all of us and the planet. Instead we will create a pro-human meta-economy which is based solely on love and mutual aid. A post-economical anti-state meta-process will navigate us out of capitalism into social anarchism. The start of the anarchic stage of history, the stage of real equity and freedom has begun where and when capitalism ends. No more excuses and apologies, no more justifications for this criminal capitalist system, capitalism is a crime against humanity and the state is the enemy of life. Down with the Empire, down to all ideology and racism, no more classes and religions, we just had enough of all of this and unlike before we today can do something about it. I would like to thank the Palestinians for reminding me on how to resist and survive the impossible.
Nations are nothing but the rich and the poor people of a certain region, the trickery of the rich to use the poor as canon fodder for wars and as a labor force for exploitation. So no more governments and no more governed, just anarchy will do.

Spartacus anarchus

All for Nothing and Nothing for All

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People don’t want to rebel and revolt yet and the reason for this is all well known – super alienation. Most people of the planet are still very alienated; they are still incapable of independent thinking. But, the consequence of this universal fear and mass submission is sad and tragic.
The revolution will come from the bottom of the hierarchy, from the base of society, a revolution without leaders and vanguard organizations, rising out of the lower classes to encompass the whole world, created by the poor and oppressed world over. This will take place in the coming future, where the people will eventually revolt and destroy the system.
Today there is only confusion everywhere; it will soon reach the stage of panic and hysteria. The capitalist system is at last collapsing and its nation state is starting to crumble. The rich are starting to panic, the middleclass is trembling, and even the anarchists are freaking out. The capitalist system is collapsing; the state is losing control, the nations in disarray and the social revolution is on its way.
The collapsing capitalist system is taking everyone with it down, more and more people everyday join the ranks of the poor and the unemployed, people overnight find themselves suddenly in the poverty trap, and this time there is no feasible way out.
After all Karl Marx was right about the economical analysis and prognostication but unfortunately he was wrong on how to conduct the revolution. At the height of the techno-industrial development, capitalism is collapsing, what a sight. What a wonderful time it is going to be when capitalism disappears and anarchy appears.
Unlike Marx, Bakunin was very good at making revolutions all over Europe in the 18th century; he failed because the industrial level was not high enough. Today the techno-industrial level is as high as it can get, therefore the time is right objectively for the anarchist revolution.
An anarcho-social revolution to finally bring down capitalism and its class system, and to destroy the state and its mechanisms,. We will liberate humanity from it parasitic hierarchical infrastructure which has lasted for millenniums. We reject living as workers or capitalists, we reject the state and its laws, and we reject class discrimination and inequality.
Most people suffer under capitalism, their lives are more like death than life, and they only live as modern slaves for capital accumulation.
We will abolish the system entirely and create a new form of life on what remains of this planet. We will abolish work and the class system, burn all the money and abolish the inheritance law. We will dismantle the state and fire all its functionaries, dismantle the army and police and the security agencies. All military assets will be recycled for social free use and all bureaucrats and business men will be released from their duty for ever.
We want a totally free world without any sort of authority and coercion, without social divisions and discrimination, without law and order for the rich, without mass poverty and human indignation.
In short we want Anarchy accomplished in our life time.
Anarchy Now
Spartacus Anarchus
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Capitalism is Parasitism

(Beyond Armed-Struggle)

It lives of me, it lives of you, it lives of the whole world population and sucks dry our planet. Capitalists are the parasites, living of the host, and often the host is also killed. We reject living as poor and oppressed, why should I live all my life in poverty and hardship, whilst the parasitic few wallow in luxury. Why should all the people of the planet always suffer and forced to live in such an inhuman condition, just so a minute minority grabs all and everything and everywhere.

Let’s use this historical opportunity of the collapsing capitalism to create instead an anti-capitalist anarchic society. It is now for the whole people of the world to rise against capitalism and the state. It is time to destroy this system that has been destroying us for such a longtime.

The people of humanity have been enslaved and exploited since the beginning of time, let’s change it, let’s liberate humanity from the parasites, let’s free ourselves from a life of poverty and a life of misery and get instead what we really deserve, a life of dignity, abundance and the freedom from money. Armed struggle has proven not to be the way, parliamentarism is also been proven not to be the way, not through politics we are going to save ourselves. To destroy the sate and capitalism we need something else altogether, something like an anarchic social revolution.

The hierarchical system must go and with it must go also all the boss-made values and police-religious morality. People shell remain in severe and chronic misery and suffering until they learn to rebel and create the revolution that will transform our lives, from a life of pain and illness to a life of freedom and creativity, away from capital and its politics.

We were born to live our lives as we want to live it, not to live our whole lives serving others, so they can get everything they want on our labor, and we get nothing although we make everything we see around us.

It is time to reclaim our lives and reclaim our planet. It is time to dismantle the state and abolish the money – no more few rich at the expense of the rest of humanity. Everyday I suffer under capitalism it is going to be one less day for the existence of capitalism – Break the State and Abolish Capital – join us in the march of liberation for the whole of humanity.

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[Diagoras]

We cannot simply go from revolution to awesomeworldwheredeersletyouridethem-land.

Honestly, I read nothing else in this thread. I saw this and burst out laughing. Thanks .

[KC]

[Communist Theory]

I like the enthusiasm, but there is no plan. We cannot simply go from revolution to awesomeworldwheredeersletyouridethem-land. So I suggest look for more practical application of this rhetoric.

The plural for deer is deer just so you know but other then that awesome world you've created.! (Look those deers are making sticks.)
P.S. I agree with your assessment comrade we can't go from Capitalism to riding deer in a day.

[bots]

WHY THE REVOLUTION HAS NOT HAPPENED YET

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Spartacus Anarchus.

hahaha what? this stuff is insane.

[magicSpoons]

An Urgent Message To All Revolutionary Anarchists

All the revolutionary anarchists I'm afraid have been scared off by the length of your posts. :/