What is this Racial Volunteer Force that they go on about? Is it like in Russia where there are camps where these people train for conflict, have sprung up in flats, training for some kind of war?
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The British People's Party - Staggering From Disaster To Desperation
“A handful”? Are the British People’s Party exaggerating their numbers yet again?!
Those who attended the antifascist counter-demo against the BPP in Leeds a few weeks ago may have been surprised at the sheer gall of the BPP claiming they had turned out even 21 neo-Nazis. For weeks beforehand the BPP had been crowing about “taking back the streets” from the “filthy reds”, but as everyone who was there saw, their ‘demo’ (such as it was), began more than 2 hours late, while they hid (unwelcome) in the back room of a closed pub, under police guard. Then eventually, after the cops had finally managed to clear a space for them, about 11 fascists shuffled out to a sheep-pen, protected by more than 200 cops. Here, they stood, completely isolated, being jeered and laughed at, for 45 minutes, before running away to be driven out of Leeds by Asian taxi drivers. They gave out not one single racist leaflet, not one person heard their venal rantings, and nor could anyone even read their silly placards. In short, the BPP’s “return to the streets” was a complete farce – a farce that had been paid for by grovelling to the cops for police protection, giving them the personal details of their membership, and informing on renegade fascist nut-case Tony White. In spite of this disaster, the BPP had the temerity to inflate their numbers to 21 (itself a pitiful figure), to claim the ‘demo’ was a success, and to compare their cowardly outing to the Battle of Agincourt!
Bearing this in mind, when we read the BPP claim they managed to turn out a “handful” of BPP “members and supporters” on Rememberance Sunday (when they generally turn up to some out of the way war memorial), one really does have to wonder what the true figure was. Perhaps, as with their Leeds ‘demo’ they inflated the figure by including children they hid behind, or even octogenarian fascist Frank Walsh’s shopping trolley! Perhaps BPP Gruppenfuhrer Kate McDermody even brought along one of her cats!
As previously predicted by Antifa, it did not take long for the tentative alliance between the BPP, various would-be paramilitary groups, and elements of the National Front to fall out. Following Tony White’s arrest, the ‘hard-men’ of the so-called ‘Racial Volunteer Force’ and the ‘British Freedom Fighters’ gave the Leeds BPP demo second thoughts, and were consequently derided as “cowards” and “wankers” by the BPP (who bravely stood behind 200 cops.) Perhaps these shaven-headed numbskulls had finally woken up to the fact they were simply being used and manipulated by McDermody and her BPP sidekick, Kevin Watmough, who had (as usual, and much like the UAF/SWP) been calling for “unity”.
For the moment at least, the BPP have realised that the game is up with their version of “unity”, issuing a statement severing all ties with their former allies, while sucking up to groups they have worked with in the past (but more recently slagged off), such as the miniscule ‘England First Party’, and even the BNP’s Nick Griffin! The BPP really must be desperate, and nothing shows that more than the name put to this statement, Eddie Stampton, who is now apparently their ‘National Organiser’! If Stampton, an inveterate liar with a sordid reputation, has been promoted to this position, the BPP really must be desperate. How much longer they can hide behind bluster and outright lies, without finally throwing in the towel, remains to be seen, but there’s an old antifascist adage: “Never hit a Nazi when he’s down...Kick him, it’s easier!”
Antifa report on the BPP’s Leeds ‘demo’:
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regi...10/411196.html
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/11/412863.html
www.antifa.org.uk
What is this Racial Volunteer Force that they go on about? Is it like in Russia where there are camps where these people train for conflict, have sprung up in flats, training for some kind of war?
There seems to be a lot of talk on this forum about the BPP.
Fair enough, but they're not as big as a threat as the BNP.
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true, i fully agree, we should try to change it, but in my defence the BPP are funny
What a fucking joke. My high school communist group was bigger than them, and we had about 10 members.
Ivan "Bonebreaker" Khutorskoy16.11.2009"We won't forget, we won't forgive"
hmmmmm...
Is it not true that the NF had a counter protest a month or so after this at a gay pride march?
Even they got 25 people, and the NF is practically dead. The BPP does not exist off the net.
The NF had their rememberance day march day as well there is a Youtube vid of it somewhere.
They got 200 people to that.
Perhaps it is time to start looking at the NF again? The BPP is not really worth the while, protesting against them just justifies their existance and makes them feel important.
i know what you mean about the bpp but i think we still have to watch these micro groups as well as the biggies. you just never know....
for us non-english people out there, how would you britons rate the three biggest facist threats in england?
And they're not as big a threat as Capitalism...
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
yeah, point being?
@ redSHARP check this out http://www.revleft.com/vb/opposition-t52668/index.html im gonna review it soon when i have the time but its a pretty good guide
Haha give them back the streets, brick by brick
this is the anti-fascism forum that is why we talk about fascist groups. there are other forums to talk about the dangers of capitalism. and i still think you have to monitor the small groups as well as the bigger ones. these are difficult times and fascism thrives in times like these.
It sounds like it's inspired by the Ulster Volunteer force, which is a Northern Irish paramilitary group. Not surprising considering that many English fascists have an unhealthy affection for Ulster loyalism.
(UVF members)
From what i understand though, that is also a ridiculous comparison because the UVF probably numbers in the 1000's while the RVF is probably even smaller than the BPP (if that is possible).
ch-ch-ch check it http://www.revleft.com/vb/opposition...438/index.html i put them in rough order of 'importance/threat'
poor RVF
^cool, i'll try and write a version of "the oposition" on the dutch situation one of these days.
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Holden you should place the BFC up there.
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