I think endorsing Barack Obama was the most ignorant tactic for a communist to adopt.
He'll at best, just delay the inevitable.
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Surprised? I hope not. So what's everyone's opinions on this "great victory for change" and what it will mean to workers in general and to us in particular for the next four years?
Who did you vote for and why?
I think endorsing Barack Obama was the most ignorant tactic for a communist to adopt.
He'll at best, just delay the inevitable.
Well, that depends on what he follows through with. If he pushes for job creation domestically with better labor laws like he campaigned for, that will obviously be beneficial to what we have seen over the past decade. Internationally he recent opposition to FTAs, such as the US-Colombia FTA will hopefully have an positive impact on labor rights, although he does have an unclear relationship with NAFTA.
And of course, one of the major points of his campaign was to tax the rich more and give tax breaks to working families. I know I will like having the extra money. But what's interesting I think was the GOP's tactic at calling Obama a socialist. independent voters who had voted Republican in the past are voting for Obama despite the cries from the right of "socialism". While he obviously isn't, its reassuring that most people are moving slowly to the left, and red-baiting isn't an effective tactic. Furthermore, some pundits are predicting that this could be the collapse of the Reaganite Republican model.
And yes, I voted for Obama. On top of liking tax cuts for me, I think it is the best option while we focus on organizing labor to build a labor movement that can actually effectively challenge capitalist parties.
"delebo inquit hominem"
"You are my creator, but I am your master.''
Hmm...
4 minutes until Indecision 08
I'm just glad this circus is over.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS
he hasn't won yet, you never know what the republicans can do to steal the election. I voted obama because of his economically socialist tendencies. I think that the rich, especially the ceo for the major corporations should be taxed heavily, and i strongly believe in tax cuts for the working and middle class..
Obama is not a socialist, but he is the closest thing to it in present day american politics, therefore he is a symbol of hope.
Nah man.. it's in the bag. California will go blue which is all he needs.
"delebo inquit hominem"
"You are my creator, but I am your master.''
It was depressing to see everyone get so excited over the election, oblivious to the fact that both candidates are members of the same ruling class and neither will do anything to change the way the American economy is organized. However, from a strategic perspective, Obama's victory is advantageous because he gained his support from people who are hoping that he will implement real changes which will improve the position of working Americans, such that when he fails to achieve meaningful change the resulting disillusionment with the Democrats could drive people to the left.
Obama's policies of job creation aim to stop American firms from moving production to the developing world. Socialists examine capitalism on a world scale, so we shouldn't view this as job creation, merely as an attempt to redistribute jobs so that employment remains in one part of the world. This serves to heighten distrust between the workers of different countries rather than fostering a spirit of solidarity.
i hope so, i'm just worried bout thoses right wing bastards and their corrupt ways..i won't believe till it's official!
This is asinine. Capitalists move jobs overseas to take advantage of poorer labor laws. The Colombia-US FTA was an example of this exploitation. You are advocating imperialism.
"delebo inquit hominem"
"You are my creator, but I am your master.''
The next few years will be interesting. The question seems to me to be whether he will be able to be the smiling face and siren's voice which will distract the people while they get plundered yet again - in the tradition of Reagan and Clinton - or has the limit been reached? The economy is about to collapse, and I doubt anything can save us from a major depression. Will the people finally start to organize against the capitalist status quo?
Will Obama be America's Kerensky?
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Well unlike Obama, Kerensky was a socialist, so I doubt that.
"delebo inquit hominem"
"You are my creator, but I am your master.''
So, Obama officially just won.
How unexpected
its really sad to see all those people so happy and cheering, because their billionaire of choice won.![]()
Obama is not a billionaire. And many of those people cheering and crying are African American voters who feel that this marks a significant turning point in race relations in the United States.
"delebo inquit hominem"
"You are my creator, but I am your master.''
I'm glad obama won I was getting a little scared of mccain gaining the upper hand.
Look me in the eye and tell me that I'm satisfied.
my mistake, its sad to see them cheering for their beloved millionaire. and IMO, this doesn't mean shit for african-americans.
Yay, no more racist white folks.
w00t
too bad the majority of the government is made up of racist white folks, not to mention a good portion of the country.