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Anyone here who doesn't like Che?
I might be the only one here, but I really don't like Che Guevara.
He used to be my idol when I was 14 but that's about it.
I mean he had good intentions and all , but he was a Stalino-Maoist, he had the worst tactics (guerillaism) and he wasn't even a good tactician .Although he has my respect for being an internationalist I don't really like Che Guevara.
The ICC doesn't either.
“Where the worker is regulated bureaucratically from childhood onwards, where he believes in authority, in those set over him, the main thing is to teach him to walk by himself.” - Marx
"It is illogical and incorrect to reduce everything to the economic [socialist] revolution, for the question is: how to eliminate [political] oppression? It cannot be eliminated without an economic revolution... But to limit ourselves to this is to lapse into absurd and wretched ... Economism." - Lenin
"[During a revolution, bourgeois democratic] demands [of the working class] ... push so hard on the outer limits of capital's rule that they appear likewise as forms of transition to a proletarian dictatorship." - Luxemburg
“Well, then go forward, Tower of Bebel! [August] Bebel is one of the most brilliant representatives of scientific international socialism. His writings, speeches and works make up a great tower, a strong arsenal, from which the working class should take their weapons. We cannot recommend it enough… And if the [International] deserves to be named Tower of Bebel... well, then we are lucky to have such a Tower of Bebel with us.” - Vooruit
Actualy, Che heavily criticised Stalin. Read the Fidel Castro autobiography ("My Life: Fidel Castro), he makes it all clear.
Ivan "Bonebreaker" Khutorskoy16.11.2009"We won't forget, we won't forgive"
I don't like him either
article on che
http://libcom.org/history/guevara-ernesto-che-1928-1967
and one about cuba
http://libcom.org/library/cuba-socia...ro-fiefdom-wsm
I don't care about him either way.
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He's dead, so I don't really give a shit either way.
You seem neat, but...
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He's done things that have impressed me, but I'm indifferent towards him. I'll go out of my way to defend him against right-wing psychotics, though. Shattering someone's worldview is a nice way to pass the time.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
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I think Che was a great, self sacrificing revolutionary who was the complete antithesis of an armchair revolutionary. He could have been satisfied with a comfy bureacratic position in Cuba (or for that matter, a comfy middle class life in Argentina as a doctor) but instead risked his life in Africa and later gave up his life in Bolivia. However, with that being said, his idea of guerilla warfare to defeat capitalism has obviously been showed to be incorrect. Even in places where it was successful (Cuba, China, Vietnam) it did not lead to a healthy workers state but a degeneration which lead to a privileged bureacratic clique.
OI - You should read what the IMT said about Che here -
http://www.marxist.com/forty-years-d...vara091007.htm
Originally Posted by Alan Woods
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The working class is allowed to decide once in three or six years which member of the ruling class was to misrepresent the people in Parliament" - Karl Marx
Indifferent.
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"(The) working class exists and struggles in all countries, and has the same enemies in all countries – the police, the army, the unions, nationalism, and the fake ‘socialism’ of the bourgeois left. It shows that the conditions for a worldwide revolution are ripening everywhere today. It shows that workers and revolutionaries are not passive spectators of inter-imperialist conflicts: they have a camp to choose, the camp of the proletarian struggle against all the factions of the bourgeoisie and all imperialisms." -ICC, Nation or Class?
I guess I don't agree with the IMT on this
Yeah, I can't really hate or him or like him.
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What is up with all the anti-Che Guevara and anti-Castro post at revleft has of late?
You are starting to believe the US propaganda.
Why would anyone not support Che Guevara and Castro ? If it was not for them the US would own Cuba and Cuba would be capitalists.
Along with the mob ruling.And racial discrimination.No free healthcare and education.
Election in Canada please tell me what is going to happpen now and why people in Canada are becoming nore conservative.
I couldn't care less about him.
"Win, lose or draw...long as you squabble and you get down, that's gangsta."
I give him an A++ in anti-imperialism and a C+ in socialism.
Che was an anti-working class Stalinist.
It is.
Devrim
Are you a capitalistI know of no left person who would say this kinda thing.
Election in Canada please tell me what is going to happpen now and why people in Canada are becoming nore conservative.
I think he's cool. If I had to speak critically I would bring up his stance on homosexuals, though there is reason to believe he would have taken the same route as Fidel concerning them.
Look me in the eye and tell me that I'm satisfied.
How boring.
What's the matter Lagerboy, afraid you might taste something?
I went for "don't like him". But I'm really more "so-so". I remember getting a book about him when I was about 12, I never idolized him, but he seemed like a good enough guy. But whatever, he's nothing but a capitalist money maker these days.
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