Anyone here who doesn't like Che?

[Glenn Beck]

I hate people that put tendencies above the revolution. I admire Che, and I'm still doubtful whether I would have the balls to do the things he did, for the revolution and for the working masses. What does his opinion on Mao or Stalin have to do with his practice at all?

QFT.

Che was a very visible revolutionary hero whose prominence has magnified both his virtues and his faults. I don't think his faults are deal-breakers or frankly all that terrible or unique. I think they are outweighed by the sacrifices he made for revolution and the inspiration he has given to so many. But I think his historical circumstances are the biggest cause of his fame. I am sure we've left many, many of our Ches forgotten in unmarked graves in Spain, Chile, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, South Africa, and countless other places.

[pilch]

Like him or not, he's one of the most reconized people of the century
his image is known through out the world by every one not just communists,
the legacy that followed him was more powerfull than he him-self,
i find it ironic the fact that the CIA killed him because he was seen as a threat to capitlist america, yet in death he became a bigger threat to them.

[Black Sheep]

he had the worst tactics (guerillaism)

Is there a better way to fight in the wilderness when greatly outnumbered and outgunned?

[Big Boss]

I like him and admire his revolutionary convictions. I mean, the guys fought to make the world a better place. Che had his virtues and vices but that is human nature. I don't idolize the man, but I do admire him as a bother of the cause and his total commitment to his ideals.

[Pogue]

I don't see how any revolutionary leftist couldn't like him.

He gave everything for his socialist beliefs, he was the ultimate human being and the ultimate socialist.

And if you read notes by people who knew him, he was actually incredibly criticle of Stalin, after having gone through a pro-Stalin phase.

He was a hero, a true revolutionary, an inspiration.

[cleef]

the guy himself i admire...
what i dont like is how his image has been exploited, i meet people all the time donning che tees and they dont even know who the man on their shirt is

[Comandante]

How can you not admire a man who left a life of money to fight for socialism in jungles?

As the poster above, I hate seeing people that wear his T-shirts and don't even know who he was.

Couple of days ago I talked to my friend and he said that he would wear a che t-shirt, then I replied "but you hate communism" and he replied "but the t-shirt is so cool"

I kicked him in the head

[Labor Shall Rule]

I see him as an adventurist anti-imperialist hero, but he left no theoretical or historical stain for Marxism.

Hence, he's not too useful anymore. In fact, he's an excellent meme for conservatives.

[Comrada J]

I'm still kind of bothered over the whole 'becoming an icon of consumism' thing. Printed T-shirts are awful to look at, and usually aren't worth the money.

Is there a better way to fight in the wilderness when greatly outnumbered and outgunned?

You can always give out pamphlets, stage a peaceful protest, pray to god or vote for Obama. No need to resort to violence!

On a more serious note I think it's best not to spend too much time in the past, you should note of the accomplishments and blunders of these figures then move on.

[Le Libérer]

I see him as an adventurist anti-imperialist hero, but he left no theoretical or historical stain for Marxism.

Hence, he's not too useful anymore. In fact, he's an excellent meme for conservatives.

I have to agree with LSR. Che is the poster child for revolution, but no where did he bring anything theoretical to the table. I do think his "look" is still in use today though. He and the Cuban rebels, grew out their hair and beards. The hippies adopted that look to their movement. And its still a symbol of the rebel. Of course thats not a lasting factor, but one for that age.

I doubt the people of Cuba will forget him anytime soon. He is considered a hero, and is so loved by them.

The one thing I did learn and take from him, is revolution wont exist without fighting for it. I just dont believe peaceful revolution is possible.

[Black Dagger]

As a human being - hawt, as a guerilla - admirable, politically? Eh.

[politics student]

the guy himself i admire...
what i dont like is how his image has been exploited, i meet people all the time donning che tees and they dont even know who the man on their shirt is

I normally use it to start a convo up with them.

Ifanything I can get them at least interested in marxism and who the guy on their T shirt is.

[PostAnarchy]

I agree the Che is more known now as a headshot for capitalist tshirts and other merchandise for pseudo radicals and rebellious teens. His politics were very heavily influenced by Leninism which resulted in a disaster for the working class.

http://libcom.org/history/guevara-ernesto-che-1928-1967

[lombas]

So-so. As an revolutionary: super, but the commercialization gets me down. Nothing personal.

[BIG BROTHER]

I don't agree with Che's theories but his passion and commitment to the struggle against capitalism can't be compared with anyone else.

[Pogue]

He was the most complete human being ever, and a true inspiration, the very model of what a human should be.

[Zurdito]

I think he was a progressive who stood for the expropriation of the bourgeosie, for the completion of anti-colonial revolutions, for a state run economy and massive redistribution of wealth, and who combined this with advocating mass armed movements.

I would have to be ultra-sectarian to reject all of this due to important strategic defects.

I think the difference with a Stalinist is that he spent very little time working as a bureaucrat, and left this to go and fight for revolution in other countries, which bears the mark of a true internationalist principle, even if the strategy was "socialism in one country".

I don't think Che is comparable to a Stalinist bureaucrat like Castro, therefore.

[Leo]

I have no sympathy at all for this poster child of the Stalinist counter-revolution.

Lots of others died young for the false cause of Stalinist third world nationalism, most of them died in much more horrible circumstances. The only reason this person became famous was that he had the right looks and died in the right time. I don't think he deserves any more admiration or respect that any ordinary soldier who died for any ordinary army.

[PoWR]

Few people, whether admirers or enemies, really understand Che's ideas or contributions. You can't get a grasp of what he was about and what he was trying to do by looking at his picture or reading Guerrilla Warfare in isolation.

I recommend reading "Che Guevara and the Coming World Revolution" by Rico Dean, which is available to read on the PoWR website, and for sale on Workers Press and Amazon.com

[Karzak]

Were Che Guevara alive today and online its doubtful whether his postings would be permitted at this site.