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Scary, scary people! Although you do realise that, in the UK the scarier group of religious nutters is the one that this bloke:In Britain:
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is in charge of. It's called Christian Voice, they campaign to destroy many of the rights people take for granted (like what they do with their genitals), they can get their insidious fundamentalist message to more MPs and other power brokers to greater effect than the people you pictured would ever dream of. WHich kind of makes this rant:
stupid. While they may demand Sharia law (and as many people have pointed out, get their demands revoked) and pollute our fine arayn shores or whatever the fuck it is you're talking about but the fact is they currently are, and most likely will remain, far less of a threat than Bigoted Voice and their accomplices in parliment.
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From reading about them all they seem to be is a small fringe group who opposes homosexuality.Scary, scary people! Although you do realise that, in the UK the scarier group of religious nutters is the one that this bloke:
is in charge of. It's called Christian Voice, they campaign to destroy many of the rights people take for granted (like what they do with their genitals), they can get their insidious fundamentalist message to more MPs and other power brokers to greater effect than the people you pictured would ever dream of. WHich kind of makes this rant:
A large Non-Western Middle Eastern population however is more danger and a much more obvious threat to Europe. Do you seriously think that Europe should be multicultural and have shariah law to the muslims? Why is it that these muslims can't just accept British culture? Freedom of speech and the rights of women/children are illusions to most middle eastern societys. These people left those countries because of this, right? And yet they would like to see the same thing in a democratic nation.
IDK...I thought you said that people decide whether they want to decide a civil case by sharia law and even so it's under the "law of the land."
While I don't like it I find it better then what I previously thought: that all muslims had to go through sharia law and it can do things that are against the usual law.
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...and oppose other fundamental rights, such as abortion. They are also part of a growing trend of disturbingly powerful Christian fundamentalist groups.
It really isn't. You're delusional.
That's one fuck of a stupid question. One can have a multicultural society without adding oppressive law structures.
Because "British culture", like every other culture, changes. The advancement of world culture has been exemplified by the growth of cultures which absorb other cultures - taking from them what is good for the culture, and leaving what is not. British culture, especially, is based on change and on accepting the influence of other cultures.
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Do you have any numbers with that or are you just pulling it out of your racist arse, dickhead? You are making the assumption that the majority of the muslim population supports this shit - produce some fucking evidence or fuck off.
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Islam is generally against abortion and homosexuality. And as the original note pointed out, the sharia court treated the daughters unequally in the land dispute BECAUSE they were female.
I am assuming you are not a Moslem, so I am wondering why you are not against change as demanded by some of Islam, but are against change as demanded by this "powerful" Christian fundamentalist group.
The comment made was not that the majority of UK moslems support unequal treatment as meted out by sharia justice. But suggesting the majority of Moslems came to the UK to get AWAY from such courts in their home countries.
No no, Muslims cannot be subject to Sharia-style arbitration against their will. Generally two parties will enter into arbitration consensually, or it may be included in the clause of a contract. And arbitration usually deals only with civil cases like land ownership etc. Of course if a man subjects his wife to domestic abuse he will still have to answer to the law.
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I LOVE how the asshole holding the "behead those who insult Islam" sign is covering his face. I am sure the brothers to his left and right renounce his
violent ideation.
Halal chicken is fucking tastyregardless of whether this is true or not, that it's been mentioned will make the BNP very happy bunnies
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Jews and Christians have had the exact same power, Said before, Don't get worked up folks.
It has NO effect on non-islamic cases
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Yeah, fuck sharia law in Europe. This bastards need to take their religion back to the desserts where it belongs.
Sounds like you are on the road to Bansville.
Have a think about that stupid statement you just wrote (the last sentence).
How many Muslims are "white" and, born and raised in Britain? Heard of a fellow called Cat Stevens? He isn't called that any more (hasn't been for years).
Materialist communists (and other materialist revolutionary leftists) don't object to the people practising a religion as such, we object to all religion as being superstitious bullshit, dangerous to the mental health of children etc.
That means we think that Christian laws should not have any part of government or society either. (Incidentally, do you think that Christians should take their religion back to the desert from where it came? What about Jews? All three religions started in the desert.)
The Christians have grown out of the dark ages. They no longer burn witches at the stake or massacre Jews. Islam however is still stuck in its dark ages. They still punish and kill women who are dishonorable, homosexuals, witches, blasphemers, and infidels.
Honestly though, Islam considers the greatest man on Earth to be Mohammed. Mohammed also had sex with a 9 year old, had sex with slave girls and even massacred whole villages.
Just recently,an Islamic group tried to pass a law in Europe, which would make criticizing Islam illegal. How are we to fight for freedom if we can't say that their religion is bad?
Funny thing, I've heard this argument before. Also from a capitalist (an atheist).
Christianity has not, as a whole, become a mature, accepting, tolerant religion. Indeed, there are parts of it where having sex with 9 year olds is fine, slaves god said I could have slaves!, and don't forget the Crusades, which certain types would love to see come about again. (Wait, isn't that why America is in Iraq? To bring religion to the heathens? Sorry, "democracy", the belief that picking who rules you is a good thing (as opposed to not having anyone rule you.))
Anyway, let's have a closer look at your list of things Christians do:
"burn witches at the stake" - sorry don't do. Much. Any more.
"massacre Jews" - Certain types of Christian would love to massacre the Jews once more. The KKK was still strong in the USA until the sixties, and hung "blacks" and Jews both. A big part of the Nazi party in Germany was Christian, and had a Christian reason for killing the Jews. (Modern Nazis are often Christian too.)
"They still punish and kill women who are dishonorable" - some Muslims do this. Some also let women walk around without covering their hair.
"homosexuals" - Wait, are you talking about Muslims or Christians here?
"witches" - and here (how many witches have been burnt at the stake recently by anyone?)?
"blasphemers" - here?
"infidels" and here?
I'm not sure if you are talking about crazy Christians or crazy Muslims, it's all blurring for me!
Wait, let's talk about the Jews again for a minute. The religion that "gave birth" to the other two we have been talking about. The religion that says that God gave them a holy land (which was inhabited by another people at the time of course), and ordered them to kill everyone in that land.
Many Jews feel justified in killing all the Palestinians because God said so! God gave them this land! Oh, and don't forget the Christians who support the massacring of all the Palestinians, because when all the Jews are in Israel, the rapture shall come!
Basically, Islam isn't the problem, religion is the problem. And the sooner you realise that, the better it shall be for your brain.
I agree with you entirely and i think capitaincockfacethecapitalist's comments about muslims fucking off back to the dessert (?) are despicable. B
But you did say "christians have not grown out of the dark ages as much has people think".... "remember the crusades!"
You then went on to list what a small minority USED to do.
Whats the point in trying to defend islam? Islam, at this current time, is a more damaging religion than any other on earth. It has not always been this way, we all know this and we also all know it will not always be this way. But at the moment islam is the most dangerous religion.
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I keep hearing the same thing from communist. Aparently the fault for all the evil int he world comes from Capitalism.
If a Christian in this country is caught doign something wrong, like havign sex with a 9 year old or killing in the name of God then he will be tried. In an Islamic countries people get away with having sex with kids and killing in the name of Job.
If this really was a crusade then we would've taken over killed off everyone and stolen all their resources. But on the contrary, the US is using its own money to build Iraq up and we are giving power back to the Iraqi government.
No Iam saying that Muslim still do those things and many times get away with it. Christians don' do this things any longer.
I totally agree with you in that religion is a problem. Its a big source of hate. However not all desert dogma monotheism are all the same. Some are more evil then others. Its stupid to think that they are all the same.
If I were to make cartoons of Jesus in front of christians in a christian country they probably wouldn't kill many. Hell if they were funny enough they would laugh. And we have made many cartoons about Jesus.
What if I made cartoons about Mohammed in an Islamic Country? I'd probably get stoned to death.
If you don't believe in defending Islam then why are you defending it?
You're saying Islam is the most dangerous religion but you don't agree with me when I say Muslims should take their shit back to the dessert?
How am i defending islam you fucking cretin? I would never defend any religion, let alone one which has so many right wing tendancies.
Firstly you are clearly and ignortant idiot. Secondly your statement about going back to the "dessert" was plain stupid:
Desert:
Dessert:
You are evidence that we did descend from monkeys.
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I said Muslims need to take their religion back to the desert not take themselves back to the desert.
BTW, in communist society you can kiss all your desserts, luxuries and anything nice good-bye because you won't have any just as long as there is anyone out there that is poor and can't afford them.
Obviously Mohammed's book is responsible for the fact that Rome over cultivated the breadbasket of the Mediterranean (North Africa and Greater Palestine/Jordan/et.al.) and that it is a desert.
He's also responsible for the US encouraging autocracy in Saudi Arabia and preventing responsible use of oil and nationalization of oil in the Middle East. Mohammed is also responsbile for the havoc that the US and Israel wreak on the area.
So yeah, Muslims just want to take away all of our desserts and luxuries and put the whole Earth into one big Sahara.
