IS this for real?
I wonder which party (labour, conservatives, etc) are mostly responsible for this!
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Sharia Law in Britain
I guess you Great Britishers knew about this for a while, but it's news to me.
It seems more than a little step backwards for woman's rights.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4749183.ece
From The Sunday Times
September 14, 2008
Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts
Abul Taher
ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court...
... There are concerns that women who agree to go to tribunal courts are getting worse deals because Islamic law favours men.
Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.
The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.
IS this for real?
I wonder which party (labour, conservatives, etc) are mostly responsible for this!
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Well isn't that bullshit. I thought one of the points of having a "liberal-democratic" state was that everyone should be treated as equal before the law, and the law should apply equally to all. (Both the rich and poor are forbidden to sleep under bridges and to steal bread.)
I am still a cynic, the British media is known for being agressive towards Arabs and guilty of Islamophobia in the past. One just has to look at the uproar created over the comments made by Rowan Williams that were taken completely out of context.
I am no fan of mistreatment of women or extreme right-wing movements with-in Islam, but I do find it hard to see an accurate criticism of Sharia from mainstream news sources.
This is an attempt to isolate Muslims from the rest of British society. By granting this power to the courts, a segregation is created both legally and socially; different standards start to apply, and Shari'a law becomes more reinforced than its previous existence as a guide for Muslims.
what if there are muslims who don't want to live under religious opression and or be spoken for by reactionary "community leaders"? what about their rights? i'm all in favour of a multicultural society, but this is the wrong way to go about it, only serving to cause divisions rather than unify the nation. not to mention the threat it might cause to our decadent lifestyles!
Seriously this has got to be a joke. I mean there is that much islamophobia within the british isles at the moment, there would most likely be riots in the streets (which i am sad to say even though i oppose sharia law). I do not know what things are like for muslims living in the USA, but in the UK, people are so paraniod and ignourant about the islamic faith, it is actually rather embarrasing.
Its a disgrace. Like Dean pointed out, it enshrines segregation in law. It infringes womens rights; all inhabitants of the UK should be treated equally whether they like it or not.
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That is what happens when you believe your nation can be shared with immigrants who do not follow Western Values? Why is it that multiculturilism is only enforced on Western Civilization? Sharia law NEEDS to be in Europe, yet to question Saudi Arabia's human rights is to question their culture. Britain shouldn't have been so politicall correct, now they are surrendering their ancient country.
Hehe. But keep complaining about Western culture, Europe. Everything that has been accomplished throughout history will be totally reversed if things keep going the way they're going.
But you see they (muslims) don't view criticism of their leaders is a right. Thats what happens when you accept millions of immigrants from a place like the Middle East and expect them to become Westerners overnight. Welcome to Non-Western Civilization.
Last edited by Flash; 18th September 2008 at 20:05.
As a Catholic I wouldn't mind if they had a separate legal system for Catholics--for, let's say, speeding instead of paying a $200 fine--I'd just have to say ten Hail Marys.
Dunno why everyone's getting so worked up about this. It's not like it's a new phenomenon with religious groups: the Jewish community in Britain have had the Beth Din for years, and their jurisdiction applies to the same civic cases as these courts.
Granted, I don't think religious groups should have their own judicial apparatus, but we can't say to one group that they can't do it when another group already has.
But alas, this is about Muslims: HEAD FOR THE HILLS, BILLY! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING WITH THEIR SPECIAL COURTS AND THEIR HALAL CHICKEN!
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This might be a bit much to ask but does anyone have any actual information on Sharia Law in Britain? For example, which laws enshrine the legal force of Sharia Law, what are the areas of jurisdiction, what happens in the event of a conflict of laws etc.?
Sharia based arbitration systems have been given official recognition to make the process more efficient. That is all. I don't know what is sadder, the media reporting s if Britain is now under Shari law or people believing it.
I trust I don't need to point out that arbitration is still subject to the law of the land. Also, arbitration is generally only binding on consenting parties.
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Demo, have you seen those British government vans with the electronic gizmos that can detect a muslim watching TV without a license?
Ten Hail Marys would be nice, but who's to say you wouldn't get stuck with lashes instead, or fasting.
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In Britain:
Europe:
I dont' believe its islamophobia, nor do I really believe theres Islamo-Fascism. However it is insane how there are people who think you can take Non-Western peoples, such as Middle Easterners, and turn them into Westerners overnight. These people are already demanding shariah law, I wonder how long will it be until people notice that there is an elephant in their living room.
Last edited by Flash; 20th September 2008 at 00:53.
The more interesting phenomenon is sharia banking.
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Oh, ok.
Then that's fine I guess...?
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
