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Starting an antifa group at my high school, any ideas?
So I want to start an unofficial anti-fascist group at my school. By un-official I mean not an official school club, since they need teacher supervisors, a certain member count, and such. Anyway, I have been asking around and there is definitely interest. I hope to bring those in the group who are not already communists to the left through this group, and I figured that anti-fascism is a cause that most sane people can support. Has anyone here started similar groups, and what things did you do to get it off the ground?
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Are there even any fascists in your area?
first of all you need to be sincere, any effective antifa groups depends on trust and comradeship.
so the firts question i'm going to ask you is; do you want to fight fascism or do you want to start a front group with a hidden agenda to convert people to "communism". Because that seems to be the case if a read your post.
wich, if true, is in my opinion totaly wrong.
In my antifa work i see a lot of the involved "non-political" people getting politiced after a while because of the dominant postion of anarchist/communist in the antifa-movement (in dutch we would say; waar je mee omgaat wordt je mee besmet) but i consider that just a nice extra side-effect.
i'm antifa to fight fascism not to win souls for the revolution.
in a totaly unrelated () question; are you a trostkyst by any change?
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
There are some hitler admirers, anti-semitists, many racists, and many racist-nationalists, most likely with white-supremacist ideals. Also, anti-fascism I thought would be a good way to introduce people to communist ideas, as well.
I don't really know if I would be considered a trotskyist, though I do like many of his ideas. I do sincerely want to fight fascism, and there are many people who would qualify in my area. I just thought that it WOULD be nice to introduce some people to communism through that, though my plan is definitely not to create a "front group".
Why not create a separate communist, socialist group or a general politics discussion group?
I think trotsky's ideas often sound better than what he did in practice.
I would create a separate group, but I really don't think that would receive a warm reception around where I live. Misconceptions about communism are the norm (as always). Also, merely because I do not dress in either popped-collar polo-shirts or "Git-r-dun" redneckoflage t-shirts with confederate flags everywhere, I get called a nazi on occasion. I figure making an anti-fascist group would, as a bonus, serve to clear up those unfortunate misconceptions.
i'm a Trotskyist!
i know, i was just pulling your leg
(kind of....)
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Also, be prepared to get labeled by your school administration as a gang if you start attacking or intimidating them.
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What are your ideas for the group? What sort of things would it do, in school or out of school? Do you have a solid group of people you can trust? And are you prepared to maybe get your ass kicked or do it to other people? Are the racists organized, public, or underground? Before you get a group going you and your people need to figure all those questions out.
But if you got this going it would be awesome to see high schoolers involved like this. Good luck!
i think establishing a broad leftist group (that will obviously hold antifascist views) will be safer and easier that creating an antifascist group in a school.
see what assorted lefties there are about, adress local issues,
even pissy school politics when i was in school i spent a entire week of lessons i have with the head criticising the school 'reps' elections (most had parents in school, lived in one nice area of town etc) and just being a pain in the arse,
see if you can win round a few 'liberals' or 'social democracts', and remember kids are easier to win round
I guess a leftist group would suffice, but my core comrades are revolutionarily-mined and very trustworthy. The racists we deal with on a daily basis are quite public, but are not organized as a racist "group" per-se, though they are so numerous and generally tolerated by the school that they don't need to be organized, really. Basically, the intention was to compile a list of the worst of the bastards, as well as get people who are picked on to trust us and come to us when they need help, and we'll confront the racists. We're prepared to fight them, and my trusted comrades and I are going to be doing training anyway. I suppose a more general left group is what it will turn out to be, but I thought that this would be a good way start, and a major part of its function.
stay safe, i dont know how old you are but it seems like a good plan, and remember general leftist politics can radicalise people to your view, charging in with 'lets kick nazis in' might scare away those who would come round to seeing things your way
That wasn't his leg thoi know, i was just pulling your leg
(kind of....)
Antifa is a specific network organisation and you must affiliate to it. There is obviously a process and in my experience it can be difficult to do.
they aren't English so anybody can be an 'antifa' group, unless i'm drastically wrong...
