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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/veepstakes

    By LIZ SIDOTI and NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writers 15 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Barack Obama selected Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware late Friday night to be his vice presidential running mate, according to a Democratic official, balancing his ticket with an older congressional veteran well-versed in foreign policy and defense issues.





    Biden, 65, has twice sought the White House, and is a Catholic with blue-collar roots, a generally liberal voting record and a reputation as a long-winded orator.
    Across more than 30 years in the Senate, he has served at various times not only as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee but also as head of the Judiciary Committee, with its jurisdiction over anti-crime legislation, Supreme Court nominees and Constitutional issues.
    In selecting Biden, Obama passed over several other potential running mates, none more prominent than former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, his tenacious rival in dozens of primaries and caucuses.
    The official who spoke did so on condition of anonymity, preferring not to pre-empt a text-message announcement the Obama campaign promised for Saturday morning.
    Obama's campaign arranged a debut for the newly minted ticket on Saturday outside the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Ill.
    Hundreds of miles to the west, carpenters, electricians, sound stage gurus and others transformed the Pepsi Center in Denver into a made-for-television convention venue.
    Tucked away in one corner were thousands of lightweight rolled cardboard tubes, ready-made handles for signs bearing the names of the Democratic ticket — once the identity of Obama's running mate was known.
    While Obama decided against adding Clinton to his ticket, he has gone to great lengths to gain the confidence of her primary voters, agreeing to allow her name to be placed in nomination at the convention and permitting a roll call vote that threatens to expose lingering divisions within the party.
    Biden slowly emerged as Obama's choice across a long day and night of political suspense as other contenders gradually fell away.
    First Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine let it be known that he had been ruled out. Then came word that Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana had also been passed over.
    Several aides to Clinton said the Obama campaign had never requested financial or other records from her.
    Other finalists in the veep sweepstakes were Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius and Texas Rep. Chet Edwards.
    Among those on the short list, Biden brought the most experience in defense or foreign policy — areas in which Obama is rated relatively poorly in the polls compared with Republican Sen. John McCain.
    While the war in Iraq has been supplanted as the campaign's top issues by the economy in recent months, the recent Russian invasion of Georgia has returned foreign policy to the forefront.
    In addition to foreign policy experience, Biden, a native of Scranton, Pa., has working-class roots that could benefit Obama, who lost the blue-collar vote to Clinton during their competition for the presidential nomination.
    Biden was elected to the Senate at the age of 29 in 1973.
    He spent the day at his home in Delaware with friends and family. The normally loquacious lawmaker maintained a low profile as associates said they believed — but did not know — he would be tapped. They added they had been asked to stand by in case their help was needed.
    No sooner had word spread of his selection than McCain's campaign unleashed its first attack. Spokesman Ben Porritt said in a statement that Biden had "denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing — that Barack Obama is not ready to be president."
    As evidence, Republicans cited an ABC interview from August 2007, in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president.
    Biden is seeking a new Senate term in the fall. there was no immediate word whether he intended to change plans as he reaches for national office.
    Biden dropped out of the 2008 race for the Democratic presidential nomination after a poor finish in the Iowa caucuses, but not before he talked dismissively of joining someone else's ticket.
    "I am not running for vice president," he said in a Fox interview. "I would not accept it if anyone offered it to me. The fact of the matter is I'd rather stay as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee than be vice president."
    It was his second try for the White House. The first ended badly in 1988 when he was caught lifting lines from a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock.
    In the decades since, he become a power in the Senate, presiding over confirmation proceedings for Supreme Court nominees as well as convening hearings to criticize President Bush's handling of the Iraq War.
    Biden voted to authorize the war, but long ago became one of the Senate's surest critics of the conflict.
    Obama worked to keep his choice secret, although he addressed the issue broadly during the day in an interview.
    "Obviously, the most important question is: Is this person ready to be president?" Obama told "The Early Show" on CBS. Second, he said, was: "Can this person help me govern? Are they going to be an effective partner in creating the kind of economic opportunity here at home and guiding us through some dangerous waters internationally?"
    And, he added: "I want somebody who is going to be able to challenge my thinking and not simply be a yes person when it comes to policymaking.
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    Associated Press writers David Espo in Denver, Angela K. Brown in Waco, Texas, Glen Johnson in Boston, Randall Chase in Greenville, Del., Bob Lewis in Richmond, Va., John Hanna in Topeka, Kan., Scott Lindlaw in San Francisco and Jesse Holland in Washington contributed to this report. Pickler reported from Chicago.
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    Biden's not that bad.
    He's the least wealthiest man in the US senate.
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    [FONT=Arial]Heh, that's not saying much. [/FONT]
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    Biden is a very much inside-the-beltway (been a senator for 36 years) rich old white guy. He has a history of running his mouth off- he said that his now-running mate was the "storybook respectable, articulate black candidate" during the primaries. So essentially he's going to be an attack dog who allows Obama to stay above the fray and make vague proclamations about change. But I believe this is where the Obama campaign loses all pretension that it's aiming to change anything.
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    I guess Obama was just BIDEN his time!

    Oh wait I already said that.

    But I believe this is where the Obama campaign loses all pretension that it's aiming to change anything.
    He's actually already trying to sell Joe Biden as an agent of change. Joe Biden's acceptance speech, he's like "I may have been in Washington for many years, but I've never seen Washington as broken as I have today!" and Barack said of Biden, "Joe Biden is that rare mix, for decades, he has brought change to Washington, but Washington hasn't changed him".

    Bullshit sells.
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    There's a thread about this in Chit Chat as well. I've moved the less serious (spam) replies there, let's remember that they're not appropriate on the political forums, ok?
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    Biden is scum. lets see (abridged from my latest blog entry):

    he supported the war in iraq all the way thru (and since criticizing its execution and saddam hussein for not proving the bush admin wrong about the WMDs)

    he voted to invade panama. jamas olvidaremos

    he's thoroughly pro israel

    he voted to keep sending funding to el salvador long after the atrocities were well known

    he voted to keep funding the opposition to the sandinistas in the 1980s

    hes anti-cuba, anti-chavez, and pro-plan colombia. hes pro-nafta and free trade agreements

    and the bourgeois press championed him as bringing great foreign policy experience to the obama ticket?
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    There's a thread about this in Chit Chat as well. I've moved the less serious (spam) replies there, let's remember that they're not appropriate on the political forums, ok?
    You removed my brilliant post! How could you!
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    Biden is scum. lets see (abridged from my latest blog entry):

    he supported the war in iraq all the way thru (and since criticizing its execution and saddam hussein for not proving the bush admin wrong about the WMDs)

    he voted to invade panama. jamas olvidaremos

    he's thoroughly pro israel

    he voted to keep sending funding to el salvador long after the atrocities were well known

    he voted to keep funding the opposition to the sandinistas in the 1980s

    hes anti-cuba, anti-chavez, and pro-plan colombia. hes pro-nafta and free trade agreements

    and the bourgeois press championed him as bringing great foreign policy experience to the obama ticket?
    That's what great foreign policy means in US bourgeois politics. It means great imperialist policy. George Bush had dumb imperialist policy, his imperialist policies have threatened America's standing as an imperialist entity.
    And when Marx says, 'Hitherto the philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways', what that 'hitherto' means is not a renunciation of theory and that all we need to do is wade in with our fists and there will be no more need for thought. This idea is in fact fascist, and it would be grossly unjust to Marx to impute such views on him.
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    and the bourgeois press championed him as bringing great foreign policy experience to the obama ticket?
    According to bourgeois ideology, this man has fucking incredible foreign policy credentials. Obama could not have picked a better representative of all that American imperialism embodies.
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