restricted lefties tread! restricted but still lefty, post here!

[danyboy27]

hey! hello everyone! i am fully aware that there is a certain number of lefty that have been restricted in the past for various reasons (socialist, libertarian, social democrat etc.) and i was curious to know who are you.

Personally what i consider a leftist is something verry broad, large definition.
to me a leftist is not necessarly someone who preach about communist, it could be someone who are in favor of making the system more equal, who advocate progressist mean of making the society better. a leftist is not forced to support a particular ideology, a party or a governement.

so, who are you, restricted leftist of revleft?

[Bud Struggle]

Welcome to OI!

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Democratic-Left

[RedAnarchist]

In your thread, destroying your restricted hegemony!

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Centre-left, social democrat, democratic left etc.

[jasmine]

This site has a checklist that determines who is a revolutionary and who is not. There are a number of big problems with this.

Firstly, being a revolutionary begins in the heart and only later arrives in the head. That means someone may genuinely be a defender and protector and advocate of the oppressed but be confused about what to do. Someone can be a genuine revolutionary without checking all the boxes.

Secondly, there is an assumption that we already understand human history and indeed human future. The 20th century demonstrated that human social development is far more complex than that anticipated by any 19th century writer/theoretician/politician/philosopher. The boxes may not be correct.

Thirdly, it's possible to discern the checklist and check all the boxes without actually adhering to the ideology. Some people here, believe me, have done that for varying reasons.

Fourthly, there is no correct revolutionary checklist. The Bolsheviks, as a mass party, were quite differentiated and included even anti-semites. I'm not advocating the participation of anti-semites here, even my most extereme opponents will have to acknowledge my opposition to racism, but I am pointing out that the revolution, even as it is being implemented, does not require unanimity.

[danyboy27]

This site has a checklist that determines who is a revolutionary and who is not. There are a number of big problems with this.

Firstly, being a revolutionary begins in the heart and only later arrives in the head. That means someone may genuinely be a defender and protector and advocate of the oppressed but be confused about what to do. Someone can be a genuine revolutionary without checking all the boxes.

Secondly, there is an assumption that we already understand human history and indeed human future. The 20th century demonstrated that human social development is far more complex than that anticipated by any 19th century writer/theoretician/politician/philosopher. The boxes may not be correct.

Thirdly, it's possible to discern the checklist and check all the boxes without actually adhering to the ideology. Some people here, believe me, have done that for varying reasons.

Fourthly, there is no correct revolutionary checklist. The Bolsheviks, as a mass party, were quite differentiated and included even anti-semites. I'm not advocating the participation of anti-semites here, even my most extereme opponents will have to acknowledge my opposition to racism, but I am pointing out that the revolution, even as it is being implemented, does not require unanimity.

i agree with you on that. why have you been restricted?
how come osmeone like you bhave been restricted?

[Qwerty Dvorak]

i agree with you on that. why have you been restricted?
how come osmeone like you bhave been restricted?

Someone like her? She's actually one of the more trollish OIers, back from a time when OI in general was a less civil place. I imagine she'd have been banned were it not for the rarity of her little visits.

[Bud Struggle]

Someone like her? She's actually one of the more trollish OIers, back from a time when OI in general was a less civil place. I imagine she'd have been banned were it not for the rarity of her little visits.

I think she's kinda cute.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I think she's kinda cute.

That's because she's the one girl in the all-boys club that is OI.

[Killfacer]

thats because women arent funny. And only people with a sense of humour stay on revleft when restricted.

[Bud Struggle]

thats because women arent funny. And only people with a sense of humour stay on revleft when restricted.

Quite an astute observation there, Killfacer.

[RGacky3]

I consider myself an Anarchist and a Syndicalist, I'm restricted because I'm against abortion.

[GPDP]

Maybe I haven't spent enough time here, but I do think the criteria for the restriction of fellow leftists tends to be somewhat harsh.

[Bud Struggle]

I'm a card carrying member of the Communist Party (USA) and I've personally instituted Soviet style reforms in an American factory to share profits and decision making among the workers.

I'm a Communist as much as Engles was. Maybe more so--I don't think he ever did squat for his workers.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

[FONT=Arial]Gla illustrated our point. He was banned immediately on the Sean Hannity forum: http://www.revleft.com/vb/banned-sea...783/index.html

RevLeft is very caring.
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[danyboy27]

I'm a card carrying member of the Communist Party (USA) and I've personally instituted Soviet style reforms in an American factory to share profits and decision making among the workers.

I'm a Communist as much as Engles was. Maybe more so--I don't think he ever did squat for his workers.

nice

[Schrödinger's Cat]

[FONT=Arial]Tom, if you read up on how "socialism" and "communism" came to be recognized as the same, you might find some interesting and relevant history. [/FONT]

[Qwerty Dvorak]

When I get fed up with all the condescending obnoxious shit spewed by some of the non-restricted commies here, I just take a trip to the real world, where they are the OIers and they are the one nobody listens to.

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ Um, nobody is listening to yellow-reformist/social-fascists like you anymore, turning to the BNP, secessionist leftists, and "direct action."

BTW, "democratic Left" is a misnomer for the PARLIAMENTARY "Left." That you restrict political democracy to its parliamentary incarnation shows the bankruptcy of the "democratic Left" (even Chavez, for all his "social-democratic" zig-zagging, allowed the blossoming of participatory-democratic communal councils).