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    Indeed, the government's controlling tendencies have resulted in a number of oddities. The police have set up a number of controls throughout Beijing in an effort to turn beggars and petty criminals away from the city center. Restaurant and bar owners were told not to serve blacks and Mongols because they are all allegedly drug dealers or prostitutes. Thousands of cameras have been installed and members of "neighborhood committees" are encouraged to report suspicious persons.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...0717-2,00.html

    Typical of Pinochet's favourite socialists.
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    Indeed, the government's controlling tendencies have resulted in a number of oddities. The police have set up a number of controls throughout Beijing in an effort to turn beggars and petty criminals away from the city center. Restaurant and bar owners were told not to serve blacks and Mongols because they are all allegedly drug dealers or prostitutes. Thousands of cameras have been installed and members of "neighborhood committees" are encouraged to report suspicious persons.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...0717-2,00.html

    Typical of Pinochet's favourite socialists.
    I posted this a while back and TragicClown did quite a good debunking of it.

    http://www.revleft.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84721
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    This is slanderous nonesense pushed by imperialist hate-mongerers. This has already been dealt with in this tread;

    http://www.revleft.com/vb/beijing-ba...721/index.html

    You should not copy this sort of stuff so unquestioningly. *wiggelsfingerindissaprovement*
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    As much disdain as I hold for the Chinese "Communist" Party and its capitalist affiliates, I just can't buy this. Sorry.
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    Whether or not this story is true, it's a fact that non-white races are generally more racist than the whites. It's my personal experience. As a non-white, I've experienced more racism and bigotry from Asians (pakistanis, chinese etc.) than I did from whites.
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    Sorry, but that's your experience, not a "fact." In my experience it's the other way around. Not only that, there's the whole system of institutional racism, closely linked to current systems of government and capitalism, overwhelmingly supports white privilege at the expense of people of colour, so even if people of colour do hold racist views (which, sure, some do) it's not backed up by virtually every societal institution, which white racism is.

    Btw- my browser is being weird, so the quote is at the bottom of this post. Odd.
    Whether or not this story is true, it's a fact that non-white races are generally more racist than the whites. It's my personal experience. As a non-white, I've experienced more racism and bigotry from Asians (pakistanis, chinese etc.) than I did from whites.
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    Sorry, but that's your experience, not a "fact." In my experience it's the other way around. Not only that, there's the whole system of institutional racism, closely linked to current systems of government and capitalism, overwhelmingly supports white privilege at the expense of people of colour, so even if people of colour do hold racist views (which, sure, some do) it's not backed up by virtually every societal institution, which white racism is.
    Indeed.

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    Sorry, but that's your experience, not a "fact." In my experience it's the other way around. Not only that, there's the whole system of institutional racism, closely linked to current systems of government and capitalism, overwhelmingly supports white privilege at the expense of people of colour, so even if people of colour do hold racist views (which, sure, some do) it's not backed up by virtually every societal institution, which white racism is.
    This may not be entirely accurate, because capitalism (which is based on profits) would rather favor people of color over whites, if the former were to demand less wages. So racism in such a scenario may affect whites.

    No offense, but don't you think socialism will work better, if the problem of racism (which is a serious problem preventing the rise of socialism) is dealt with by the respective races? Meaning, whites must take care of the racism in white societies, whilst non-whites must do the same within theirs. The former has been satisfied, but the latter?

    Let me explain a bit more as to what I mean. The problem of racism in white societies are taken care of by liberals, who have forced the govt. to implement laws against it. Anti-Semtism is illegal in Europe, Blacks in US have prospered through AA, and all the rest. Put simply, whites have come a long way in addressing this problem, so much so they're even complaining of reverse racism.

    Contrast this with non-white societies, and you'll see that all we've done so far is to complain of white racism, all the while turning a blind eye to the racism in our own societies. Isn't this hypocrisy? This is why, as a non-white, I'd much rather focus on non-white racism, and let the liberals and leftists in white countries to tackle theirs.

    This is a better approach, it's like families taking care of their own problems first, instead of unduly worrying about other families. But what I see happening in this world is the exact opposite: non-whites complaining of white racism, all the while practicing racism amongst themselves. One instance that comes to mind is Pakistanis (in UK) taking offense at the word 'paki.' The irony is that in UK, Pakistanis freely throw around the N word (while referring to Blacks) as if there's no tomorrow, and yet they're hypocritical enough to take offense at the P word. If we can't see the double standards in this, I really don't know what to say.

    All I am saying is, while whites may not be perfect, at least they've fought so hard to eliminate racism, so much so groups like KKK, nazis are treated like lunatics by their own people. At least, they've taken a step in the right direction. OTOH, us non-whites have made no improvement whatsoever, are still competing with each on the basis of skin color (see how Latinos and light-skinned blacks discriminate against dark blacks, or how light-skinned Indians/pakistanis discriminate against dark-skinned ones etc. etc.).

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    You say you are from Aus. I've lived there, and faced more discrimination from aborigines/Asians than I did from the whites. Go figure!

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