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    What are your opinions of Thomas Paine?

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    He was an advocate for Republicanism and Liberalism, whilst dismissing monarchy and viewing all governments as, at best, a necessary evil.

    He opposed slavery and was one of the earliest proponents of universal, free public education and a guaranteed minimum income! (remember this is in the late 18th century).

    He was a true radical back when it actually meant something.
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    "A new centrist project does not have to repeat these mistakes. Nobody in this topic is advocating a carbon copy of the Second International (which again was only partly centrist)." (Tjis, class-struggle anarchist)

    "A centrist strategy is based on patience, and building a movement or party or party-movement through deploying various instruments, which I think should include: workplace organising, housing struggles [...] and social services [...] and a range of other activities such as sports and culture. These are recruitment and retention tools that allow for a platform for political education." (Tim Cornelis, left-communist)
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    he even gets a mention in the lyrics of 'renegades' by rage against the machine.

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    He also supported women's suffrage and animal rights.
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    he even gets a mention in the lyrics of 'renegades' by rage against the machine.

    Are you replying to MY post above and trying to link Thomas Paine to the "renegade" Kautsky?
    "A new centrist project does not have to repeat these mistakes. Nobody in this topic is advocating a carbon copy of the Second International (which again was only partly centrist)." (Tjis, class-struggle anarchist)

    "A centrist strategy is based on patience, and building a movement or party or party-movement through deploying various instruments, which I think should include: workplace organising, housing struggles [...] and social services [...] and a range of other activities such as sports and culture. These are recruitment and retention tools that allow for a platform for political education." (Tim Cornelis, left-communist)
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    Not quite a socialist, of course, but for his time, he was as progressive as they got.
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    Are you replying to MY post above and trying to link Thomas Paine to the "renegade" Kautsky?
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    Very good man. An honest man who, when it comes to politics, deserves to be remembered as a great purveyor of liberty. If I remember rightly, he was critical of the American regime as it abandoned the principles Paine fought for. I think that if he were around in the 20th century, he would have most certainly been a communist/socialist.
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