I've never understood why they deny it, or would even want to. Shouldn't they be proud of it?
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Recording of himmler himself giving the order for the extermination of the jews-
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I've never understood why they deny it, or would even want to. Shouldn't they be proud of it?
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Surprisingly enough even the neo-nazis are divided on this issue. Some call it a 'hoax', while others praise it and its objective, but choose to play down the numbers. Personally I think it's just something people do with their free time to gain attention. And jail time, in some cases![]()
aryan is a myth. be proud of who you are, without having to make up some imaginary boys club.
Fear of negative public perception though you would think that denying it outright is just as bad as being proud of it right?
Fascists seeking power via the ballot box will only ever question the official numbers of those who died (a sly way of holocaust denial as technically you aren't saying that less died, which is holocaust revisionism, you are just questioning how many actually died which could imply that you mean more could have died).
Fascists seeking power via revolution are usually split on all three options with some denying it outright as a hoax (holocaust denial), some who question the official numbers of those who died implying that it was far less then what is the widely accepted figure (holocaust revisionism) and those who are proud of it (wankers).
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Because a lot of people agree with the ract sentiments of the nazis but are put off by the mass genocide that they are historically responsible for.
Its neccisary for thjem to deny it if they want a hope of getting a foothold in the population. Case in point > BNP.
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
the stupidest thing is this, you could have this converstion with a nazi-
Rational person- so did the nazis kill commit the holcaust?
Nazi- No! It's a lie perpetuated by the ZOG media!
Rational person- Why is the world such a bad place?
Nazi- The Jewish conspiracy!
Rational person- So what would you do to solve it?
Nazi- Kill all the jews!
I mean, whats the point in denying the holocaust if its your own objective anyway?
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Nazis understand that it generally puts most people off when they say they want to kill millions of people. They want to look like legitimate, upstanding people who are protecting the community, not mass-murdering psychos. This is why the German state did not publicize the atrocities that were committed in the concentration camps. They knew that people might not have a problem with their racism and "deporting" jews, but if people had known exactly what was going on in the camps, it probably would not have been too popular.
Because If the killing of the jews never happened then Hitler was a hero. The only person willing to stand up to stalin who had by then killed 22 million civilians [not my numbers but the numbers of conservatives].
This would mean that the market for hitlers ideas and memory amongst mainstream reactionairies would go through the roof.
And the scary part is that they dont need to prove their case, just raising doubt about aspects of the official history is enough. Since reactionaries dont believe anything that the USSR said and progressives still dont believe anything the USA says.
They are very dangerous IMO. Much more than groups like the BNP.
You would think so but ask your self this,
are you proud of stalins gulags. btw I AM
I think that idea is never going to gain any significant ideological ground, except perhaps among the fascists own ranks. I'm all for questioning the official story of things, as I think we all are, but there is absolutely no evidence to support the holocaust denial claim. It's just nazi garbage.
This is such an exaggeration in the first place. Most importantly, these were not "innocent civilians" in most cases. Most were enemies of the Proletariat, and such actions are necessary in times of war.
You missed my point by about a mile.
Yes it is a massive exaggeration [or not, depending on your view I guess].
In the eyes of the nazis the Jews they killed were not "innocent" either. You are using the exact same rational as the nazis.
But thats all beside the point. The reactionaries believe those people to be innocent victims, which means that if Hitler hadnt killed the jews, he would be a reactionary hero of sorts. Right now the nazis are tiny fringe groups. If hitler hadnt killed the jews the market for their ideas, particularly anti-semitism, would be much much larger.