Yeah, communism has a nasty habit of doing that to people.
(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 7:11 am on Oct. 6, 2002)
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Country/Experiment Death count
Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics (USSR): 20,000,000
People's Republic of China:65,000,000
Vietnam (North & South): 1,000,000
North Korea:2,000,000
Cambodia:2,000,000
Eastern Europe (thanks to FDR):1,000,000
Latin America:150,000
Africa:1,700,000
Afghanistan:1,500,000
Cuba:15,000
TOTAL:92,365,000
http://www.jos-cu-ei.home.ro/index_files/T...Texte/DEATH.htm
Yeah, communism has a nasty habit of doing that to people.
(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 7:11 am on Oct. 6, 2002)
First of all Cuba is part of Latin America
Second why does everyone group Africa together like it's one damn country
Go there people it's a contineint not a country
second are you doing this as in how many people died during their communist governments? Or how many the government killed
Cuz I'm sure I can find out how many people have been put to death in the US
executions
assasinations
mob lynchings that the government didn't care to stop
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
While communism has certainly resulted in a great number of deaths, many of which could have easily been avoided, it's worth remembering that we really don't have such stats. about the damage done in capitalist systems.
\"It\'s crazy, it seems it\'ll never let up, but please - you gotta keep ya head up\" - 2pac \"keep ya head up\"
Can someone please drill it into the capitalists' heads that it was SOCIALISM. Communism hasn't existed. They died during socialism(despite the obvious exagerrations of that report).
How are these deaths of 'communism'? As far as I have seen, these regimes killed people; not because they were communist, but because they had a bad habit of smashing dissent. These numbers have NO legitimate source, and they do not explain how it was 'communism', and not 'corruption' that caused these deaths. I could do the same thing.
Leopold the Second seeked wealth and money above all else (Capitalism): 20,000,000 Deaths...
Anywhere between fifty to ninety million people die of starvation because of capitalism annualy: (Average) 70,000,000
Wow! I've just tied your score! And that seventy million is ANUALLY. Add it up for the past few decades; what do you have?
(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 7:03 pm on Oct. 6, 2002)
(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 7:04 pm on Oct. 6, 2002)
<span style=\'font-family:Arial\'>11:18 am, Greenwich Mean Time, December 21, 2012 AD.
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"Einstein was a sick pervert, E=mC2 MY ARSE! pROVE IT U RED SWINE" - Bugalu Shrimp</span>
Why bother replying? I never thought i'd say this, but the quality of capitalist has decreased on this site... so far, that they resort to making stupid childish comments, and then refuse to back their poor arguments up.
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I think drake dracoli's statistics are slightly exxagerated to be honest, but I did calculate that at the current rate of starvation you have a 100,000,000 death toll per decade.
And Leopold may well have killed more than Stalin, but Congo has been ravaged by wars over the last century so much that finding mass graves would be useless, and the person who uncovered Leopold's crimes was hung for homosexuality in the Tower of London.
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100,000,000 per decade; prehaps now. But how many people died due to capitalism in the middle ages? And during the industrial revolution? If people that 'communism' killed a century ago are still applicable, then the same must be applied towards capitalism.
<span style=\'font-family:Arial\'>11:18 am, Greenwich Mean Time, December 21, 2012 AD.
"If you're talking about Xvall, I think it is some date when the world is supposed to get sucked into some blackhole or some crazy shit like that." - Fist of Blood
"Einstein was a sick pervert, E=mC2 MY ARSE! pROVE IT U RED SWINE" - Bugalu Shrimp</span>
hows about da ppl killed by bush?
indochina- 2 million
vietnam - 2 million
iraq - 1.5 mill
indonesea- 1 milion
southeast asia- 2 million
guatemala - 80,000
el salvador- 50,000
hungary-30,000
india-16,000
and this is info from a while back, i wonder what they coulda done in a recent time??? in capitalism these days it seems the only way to get money is by taking it from someone else. by killling stealing or whatever you have to do to get your moneys worth.
Yo soy un caracol
Whoa whoa whoa don't push communism's killings on US
atleast modern socialism
You can't say socialism because that is to general
there are like four hundred types of socialism
Authoritarian Socialism (communism)
Democratic Socialism (also known as "the right way")
Afro-Socialism
European Socialism
pick one
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
those numbers are bullshit.
they blame deaths of wars as socialism, they overinflate actual deaths. the source is probably from some sort of neo-nazis, by their "thanks to FDR" comment.
Lard - Authoritarian Socialism is not 'Communism'. Where the hell do you get that?
<span style=\'font-family:Arial\'>11:18 am, Greenwich Mean Time, December 21, 2012 AD.
"If you're talking about Xvall, I think it is some date when the world is supposed to get sucked into some blackhole or some crazy shit like that." - Fist of Blood
"Einstein was a sick pervert, E=mC2 MY ARSE! pROVE IT U RED SWINE" - Bugalu Shrimp</span>
Online Marxist Dictionary
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
You know what kills more people than anything else? It's not socialism/communism, capitalism, or facism.
Nope, the biggest killer of humans is life. Think about it, from the beginning of the human race to today, how many people do you think have died? There are roughly 6-7 billion people on this planet right now, and they will all die. I'm not trying to be negative about it, it's just the way it is; death is a part of life, regardless of the social system you live under.
<span style=\'color:red\'>Remember, if you duck and cover, you'll be incinerated in a crappy pose</span> -The Anarchist Prince
Actualy life creates more life than it kills
So it balances out.
The birth to death ratio is what keeps the world population growing
1 person dies for every 3 that are born.
So lets say teh population is 1 hundred
that means it will go up three then down one
101, 102,103
102
103,104,105
104
105,106,107
And the thing is that htis all happens in a matter of seconds all over the world.
So really the entire life if the biggest killer arguement isn't fair because life creates more life than it takes away
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
For argument's sake, let's say someone has two kids & then goes out and murders someone - they've created more life than they've destroyed, so they're not a killer?
That aside, neither communism (or socialism) or capitalism kills people. People kill people. People will kill people no matter what system they're under. So much for any system creating Utopia...
\"It\'s crazy, it seems it\'ll never let up, but please - you gotta keep ya head up\" - 2pac \"keep ya head up\"
Did I say it wasn't a killer? No i said it created more life than it took away.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
"indochina- 2 million
vietnam - 2 million
iraq - 1.5 mill
indonesea- 1 milion
southeast asia- 2 million
guatemala - 80,000
el salvador- 50,000
hungary-30,000
india-16,000"
Care to provide links that directly implicate Bush for these deaths? How about the U.S. government?
The numbers quoted by Brian are well established and accepted by those who do not wish to ignore the facts of the matter. "The Black Book of Communism" is an excellent source of information if you want to get into detailed accounts of the human rights abuses of these regimes and exactly how these numbers were arrived at. I find it troubling that the left wingers on this board wish to defend the atrocities committed and people like Mao who was by far the most efficient at ridding the world of population. Look up the history of Maoist or Stalinist policies sometime and you will understand my disgust for those who would try to downplay these important events. Next you guys will be trying to rationalize the Holocaust, claiming the death rates are grossly overexaggerated.
