Wow
he's totally out of his tree
The reason there maybe more students from richer families perse as opposed to poorer families is economical. Student loans, and then the families of rich can pay the costs for the students to help them get ahead.
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the working class are genetically stupid..
so says..
Bruce Charlton, reader in evolutionary psychiatry at Newcastle University, suggested that the low numbers of working-class students at elite universities was the "natural outcome" of IQ differences between classes.
it seems to fit a quote i like to use on anti BNP propaganda from BNP member Tony Lecomber
-Tony Lecomber
lets not say 'wait genetically more intelligent?' oh yeah like nazi though all white people were,
lets say bullshit maybe as they have the best teachers at the best schools, with parents who can afford to support them through a life time of education!
shall we hunt down Bruce now?
Wow
he's totally out of his tree
The reason there maybe more students from richer families perse as opposed to poorer families is economical. Student loans, and then the families of rich can pay the costs for the students to help them get ahead.
I know some incredibly thick rich people.
^^^^^^
And i know lots of dumb ones too
look at paris hilton ahahah
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hewhocontrols...do you have a concrete source for the lecomber quote? I searched but couldn't find a good one. I ask because I would like to use it, and would like to be able to cite it beyond reasonable doubt...cheers.
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btw whilst searching I found a very interesting article:
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/200...lass-bnps.html
May 20, 2008
They just piss on the working-class: the BNP's ambiguous relationship with class
Posted by Antifascist
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The BNP is increasingly trying to orient itself as the sole representative of the white working-class. Whether or not it succeeds in doing this is another thing. But, deep down the BNP is riddled with anti-working class sentiment.
Like many racist/fascist parties, the BNP ideologically makes a connection between class and 'race': that that the white race is not just threatened externally by Jews, non-whites, and whites who marry non-whites but, that it is internally threatened by whites who 'genetically' don't make the grade. In other words, the white working-class due to their genetic inferiority (the reason why they cannot progress economically and culturally) threaten to bring the white race down from inside.
I was prompted to write this piece after I was incensed by a recent comment made by the Lee Barnes, the self-appointed 'Director' of the BNP's legal department, about how he sees the trials and tribulations of modern working class life in Britain as a source of amusement and personal entertainment. This is what Lee Barnes wrote:
"The other night when I was laying in bed all I heard at first was the screams from my neighbours having another drunken fight, then the sounds of a baseball bat smashing car windows in the car park. This happens most friday and saturday nights. To be honest its more entertaining than the TV, so I just lay back and listen to the chaos of modern working class lives"
'The Song of the Star Lark'
This sideswipe at the working-class is a recurring theme in BNP utterances. Thus, we read BNP councillor Simon Smith saying:
"White working class scum will be swept away by a future BNP government."
"I'm no apologist for white working class scum"
Also, we shouldn't forget BNP leader Nick Griffin's argument that people who live on housing estates are "scum". So, according to Nick Griffin working-class people are scum. Unfortunately, unlike Nick Griffin, we can't all be born with a silver-spoon in our mouths, raised on Suffolk farms, with a six-figure inheritance from granddaddy and a private-school education rounded off with a third-class degree from Cambridge.
Nick Griffin's former mentor, John Tyndall, the founder of the BNP, went further, stating that inherited wealth "increases the probability that assets come into the hands of those best fitted to use them by virtue of genetic advantage". John Tyndall, like Nick Griffin, also had the benefit of a six-figure inheritance. From John Tyndall's perspective the working-class are both undeserving of financial inheritance and incapable of leaving an inheritance. Tony Lecomber, then a senior BNP officer, articulated this reasoning when he said: "The rich are genetically superior to the poor" i.e. the upper classes are genetically superior to the working classes.
One is then not surprised to learn that BNP members posted on the website of the youth wing of the BNP jokes making fun of working-class people or 'chavs' as they call them. Similarly, I recently came across the Bebo profile of a BNP member/supporter called John Smith (his nickname is the enamouring 'The Michelin Man') who states under the section 'Pure Hatred for':
"I cannot stand chavs or gypsies or sluts and hoes as they fuck me off big time acting like hot shit"
Source
The BNP hierarchy have even deployed the sub-text of class to dismiss any internal dissent. Currently, we are seeing BNP councillor Colin Auty from Kirklees attempt to challenge Nick Griffin for the leadership of the BNP. Some BNP members on the neo-nazi chat forum Stormfront dismiss Colin Auty's leadership challenge by contrasting Nick Griffin's 'education' against Colin Auty's lack of an 'education'. Therefore, we see the juxtaposition between "university-educated Nick Griffin" and "painter and decorator Colin Auty"; and, "capable and competent Nick Griffin" and "not so capable and perhaps incompetent Colin Auty". The sub-textual reading is obvious: how dare a working-class person, stupid and uneducated, challenge an 'educated' man.
The BNP's conception of the 'nation' is both oppositional and hierarchical. Oppositional because externally the BNP defines Britain in opposition to non-Whites and Jews i.e. its vision of Britain is exclusionary. Hierarchical because internally the BNP defines Britain in terms of a hierarchy of class with the white working-class at the bottom as an internal threat who can diminish the purity and strength of the white race from within i.e. its vision of Britain is again exclusionary because it comes from an upper/middle-class vision of Britain which is out of touch with and hostile to working-class life and culture.
Labels: BNP, John Tyndall, Nick Griffin, working class
Lenin’s internationalism is by no means a form of reconciliation of Nationalism and Internationalism in words but a form of international revolutionary action. The territory of the earth inhabited by so-called civilized man is looked upon as a coherent field of combat on which the separate peoples and classes wage gigantic warfare against each other. No single question of importance can be forced into a national frame.
Leon Trotsky
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The BNP are infiltrated up to the gills with British Intelligence.....it suits the Brits to exaggerate their 'rise of fascism' problem, it's been a long long time one of their excuses for not pulling entirely out of Ireland,(we'd all have killing here is their other excuse, so what sez we, we can totally take them) they claim they'd have a monstrous neo-Nazi problem in England and Scotland supporting 6 counties Loyalists...it's already been shown they created Combat 18 themselves...anyone thick enough to be a genuine fascist is also too thick to be a real worry, British intelligence fostering them is the real problem.
I know some incredibly thick rich people with good educations too.
"Events have their own logic, even when human beings do not." - Rosa Luxemburg
"There are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen." - Lenin
Bullshit. Intelligence is like 90% based on nurture. Genetics is like the smallest factor when it comes to IQ, and class, gender and ethnicity are all far more important.
The reason the kids of the bourgeoisie do better is because their parents are wealthy enough to be able to provide the most suitable environment for learning the bourgeoisie' norms and values, and by extension the curriculum.
Who is going to do better in school? A child pampered from birth and encouraged to focus on his studies?
Or a child who is not actively encouraged to learn in the conventional way and given multiple other responsibilities at home, often having to direct their time to things other than homework?
If intelligence is to be class based, then the only solution is to abolish classes themselves.
I have little faith in the education system having anything in particular to do with a person's intellectual development.
I think however that rich kids having most problems solved for them do not live in an environment that would reward or allow them to develop the ability to problem-solve, which I believe to be a main element of intelligence. On that, an environment too cruel to allow for a complex process like problem-solving to actually take place would of course prevent the development of it as an ability in working class too.
On the topic though, anyone reading here read the book "Brave new world"? I may be stating the obvious here but it discusses this particular problem quite thoroughly.
Last edited by DustWolf; 22nd May 2008 at 20:52.
i don't im sorry but it is a well known antifa quote to be used, and there are, to my knowledge, our people on the inside of their organisation so i am not sure if it has even been mainstream it may have been passed around antifa circles this is where i heard it,hewhocontrols...do you have a concrete source for the lecomber quote? I searched but couldn't find a good one. I ask because I would like to use it, and would like to be able to cite it beyond reasonable doubt...cheers.
try googling it, im sure my associates blogspot has it up (the right are wrong or something similar),
It's just a bunch of bourgeois pseudo-scientific classist hogwash whaleshit. nothing more.
Last edited by Hexen; 23rd May 2008 at 18:02.
yes it is but the source is a man who passes his ideas onto literally hundreds of students so it is a bit more worrying,
he isnt an extremeist in the traditional sense he is a university lecturer at a fairly well known uni and a prestigious twat so it seems
