Dear vox........

[American Kid]

So you said no one would be able to find even one. Well here's three:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...pic=704&start=0

(felecia and James give their regards)

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=714

(Irish Guevara sends his praises)

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=741

(Nateddi gives a high-five) (later on in that same thread, Supermodel does the same, but I don't know if she qualifies as a lefty or not)

So there you go. I hope you're satisfied. There's half an hour out of my life I can never get back. Now I know what Peacennicked must feel like.

-AK

(btw, I know, I know:

"AK, you're list means absolutely nothing to me. Typical rightist drivel.

vox"

.................I know, I know.........)

[vox]

Since all three threads were started by CI, and you didn't offer any clarification, which I said you should give if you felt it necessary, I can only assume that you mean the first post in all three threads are examples of CI's "brightness."

Well, hmmmm. The first one, I would say, is simple common sense. If someone builds explosives, he may blow himself up. Not really exceptional, is it?

The second one may have been garnered from the pages of "Soldier of Fortune," I don't know, but, again, doesn't show anything other than that he's read an article about a weapon. Again, not really indicative of being bright. After all, it wasn't about theory or anything like that, just a factual article, I would, again, have to assume.

Which brings us to number three. Maybe I'm missing the cleverness? I don't know. I do know that I'm not missing the outright lie about food drops in Afghanistan. You gave three examples, I'll go you two better, from various organizations:

abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/strike_fooddrops011009.html

www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1008-01.htm

www.brc21.org/resources/res_food.html

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe....aid.agencies/

www.commondreams.org/views01/1009-14.htm

Things like CI's seventh point are, to be sure, not grounded in anything but rhetoric. Where is the talk of the role of the US in Latin America, or Haiti? Nowhere to be found, is it? It doesn't suit the author's bizarre point.

Thanks for replying, AK. I find it very amusing that these were the best examples you could find. Now, call me a dick some more to make yourself feel better. We all know that this is really about my first post to you. Y'know, for a guy who loves films, you sure can't talk about them very well, can ya?

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Thanks AK, I appreciate that, I really do.

Vox, I think you totally missed the point of the 1st reference. It is ostensible that building explosives is dangerous. My point was that an individual was inherently endorsing what amounts to mostly teenagers, many of whom are impressionable regardless of ideology, and tend to think of themselves as revolutionaries, to read a book giving instructions on how to make anti-personel devices and employ them.

As for the comments regarding the other 2 posts, I can forsee another Vox/CI theorhetical debate, and I abstain at this time due to time constraints, though I will read your articles and respond soon.

[American Kid]

Flattered the quick response.

I didn't feel the need to give any explanations.

As amusing (and nonetheless equally flattering) as your first post to me was, it's dwarfed in comparison to some of the ones you made later on. Not to sell that one short. It was still impressive and occupies a very warm place in my heart to this day.

vox, my friend (?), you're a condescending, self-righteous know-it-all who, when he makes sweeping, outrageous blanket-statements like the one I so (oh, so) deftly proved as false above ^, does nothing but expose himself as the ignorant, miserable prick he is. That makes me feel good. Calling you a dick is a concession.

xoxoxoxo

-AK

(I can actually talk film very well. Knowing not to post politically-leaning topics in "Chit Chat" was what took me a while to get used to. And obviously I've come to excel there as well, as I happen to be the only "cappie" left standing)

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(Edited by American Kid at 3:13 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[American Kid]

Okay, actually here's some explanations.

GODDAMNIT. FUCKING GODDAMNIT. JESUS CHRIST ON THE CROSS.

I-put-names-of-confirmed-leftists-under-the-links-in-paranthesis- (goddamn you for making me half to spell "paranthesis" ). When-you-click-the-links-scroll-down-and-find-THEIR-GODDAMN-POSTS-WHAT IS THIS FUCKING AMATEUR HOUR?

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 3:18 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[vox]

I'm condescending? Perhaps to capitalist tripe, yes.

However, my post in this thread, despite having responses, goes unanswered, which is typical.

I ripped you a new one before, AK (which, considering how you try to suck up to people, I'm beginning to think stands for Ass Kisser), and, if you ever write a post with any substance, for despite your verbosity your posts are light as clouds, I'll do it again.

Ta,

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from American Kid on 3:10 am on Aug. 12, 2002
Flattered the quick response.

I didn't feel the need to give any explanations.

As amusing (and nonetheless equally flattering) as your first post to me was, it's dwarfed in comparison to some of the ones you made later on. Not to sell that one short. It was still impressive and occupies a very warm place in my heart to this day.

vox, my friend (?), you're a condescending, self-righteous know-it-all who, when he makes sweeping, outrageous blanket-statements like the one I so (oh, so) deftly proved as false above ^, does nothing but expose himself as the ignorant, miserable prick he is. That makes me feel good. Calling you a dick is a concession.

xoxoxoxo

-AK

(I can actually talk film very well. Knowing not to post politically-leaning topics in "Chit Chat" was what took me a while to get used to. And obviously I've come to excel there as well, as I happen to be the only "cappie" left standing)

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(Edited by American Kid at 3:13 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

AK, I agree 100%. BTW, While I appreciate your support, I also think that maybe we (or you, I guess) should not have entertained this challenge, as it assumes vox to be the omnipotent, be-all end-all of what is brilliant and relevant.

He is not.

All prejudices aside, and overlooking his condecending attitude and lack of a sense of humor, Vox is a smart person. I won't deny this. Vox, however, will never give a reciprocal acknowledgement

As I have stated before, I, or any cappie, could submit a working theory and application for cold fusion, and he would still not acknowledge 1 smidgeon of intelligence on my part. He is that biased against the right.

Anyway, good to see you back, hope the toe's better.

[American Kid]

Who does "American Kid" suck up to?

Hey, dude, just because I know how to work a room (as opposed to your charming morticianesque demeanor), doesn't mean I'm an ass-kisser. I have just as many enemies (believe it or not) here as you do, vox.

I'm beginning to think vox stands for...........uh, very omnipotent..........xylophone.......player (damn, again I lose the battle of the wits...........)

xoxoxoxo (to everyone, especially mine enemies)

-AK

thanks CI. Though the dog stepped on it yesterday while playing ball. We're back to square one. Rock and roll

[vox]

"Vox, however, will never give a reciprocal acknowledgement"

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of people here who I think are smart. In fact, I'll name two right now that, if you've looked at the history of this board, may surprise you: Peacenicked (though I really wish he'd clean up his language before he posts) and Nateddi (who is a Leninist and I've got nothing good to say about them).

See?

Peace and I got into a much uglier fight than any I've ever had here with a right-winger (though, to be honest, it wasn't all Peace, there were two others involved who no longer post here).

I think I've made my feelings about right-wingers clear: they are disgusting examples of exactly how terrible and dreadful a human being can be. Again, I've posted about this before. Indeed, twice I've posted about why I think right-wingers are inhuman filth.

The right acts solely in the interest of the "elite," that is, the wealthy. Slashing humanitarian programs and increasing corporate welfare is somehow supposed to improve the quality of life for the citizenry. There are no examples of this working, of course. Not ever.

I should respect them anyway? These filthy inflictors of pain? These rotten purveyors of avarice?

No.

Not now.

Not ever.


I know that some on this board wish to be friendly with right-wingers. I am not one of them. There is not now, nor has there ever been, any doubt about my position.

vox

[American Kid]

Hey, war is war, I understand.

(though watch what you say around Howard Zinn, as he doesn't think the rest of us can handle a mature, adult conversation or discussion, or movie, about it without rushing out and throwing on a tin helmet with a gun in one hand and a grenade in the other.)

(right?)

vox. I've never said you weren't intelligent. I'll concur that until the.........uh, cows come home. Seriously, you're smart, everyone here knows it.

Thoughhhhhhhhhh...... I personally am having my doubts as you totally, TOTALLY misinterperted my original post to start this thread here. TOTALLY mis-read it. Totally. I mean, really. You ruined it for me.

-AK

[vox]

"I personally am having my doubts as you totally, TOTALLY misinterperted my original post to start this thread here. TOTALLY mis-read it. Totally. I mean, really. You ruined it for me."

Feel free to give examples. Damn, do I have to teach right-wingers how to use a message board, too?

If I ruined it, show me, and everyone else, how I ruined it. C'mon, kid. You should know better.

vox

[American Kid]

Here's how you ruined it (read slowly if you must; or have someone read it to you, slowly) :

Each of those links I posted, to begine this thread, was a link to a thread here at Che-lives, which, granted, CI started-

BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS STUPID THING IS YOU SAID THAT CI DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THIS FORUM AND THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM.

That's the whole point of this "thing", vox. Now lookit, what I did, was I went back and found three threads where people (leftists) said NICE THINGS and/or ACKNOWLEDGED A POST OF HIS AS BEING SOMETHING RELEVANT AND/OR CONSTRUCTIVE, A PHENOMENA WHICH YOU CLAIMED DID NOT EXIST HERE AS AN ENTITY IN THIS FORUM.

I posted the links, underneath I wrote (clearly) the person's name whose specific post was to BE OF NOTE.

GODDAMINIT. GODDAMNIT, IT'S NOT FUCKING BRAIN SURGERY, I'VE GOTTEN TWO DIFFERENT PM'S SO FAR FROM PEOPLE SAYING:

"Dude, vox totally didn't get your post."

You thought I was trying to show good posts that CI has done in the past (which would be a far simpler task). You were so, so, so off topic it's not (seriously) it's not even funny. I'm sitting here shaking my head going, "Did I..........write it wrong?" The answer is: negative. vox just needs pictures I guess with his words.

That, simply, is how you ruined it. I proved you wrong, and you didn't even realize it. Which is doubly-satisfying in it's own right, but not how I wanted.

-A to the K



(Edited by American Kid at 4:06 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[vox]

"YOU SAID THAT CI DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THIS FORUM AND THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM."

AK is lying.

Here's the proof: www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=776&start=10

What I wrote was this: "I will, however, take you up on your offer to provide some quotes from CI that show how "bright" he is. Better yet, just leave links to the appropriate pages of whatever threads you find, adding any clarification you feel is necessary. That way you won't have to explain the situation for the quote to make sense. See how nice I am?"

Anyone can go to the thread where this started to see the proof.

"You were so, so, so off topic it's not (seriously) it's not even funny."

I'm exactly ON topic. AK is, clearly, the one who has resorted to lying and is, without any doubt, off-topic.

How much clearer can this be?

vox

(Edited by vox at 11:24 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)

[American Kid]

Such a goofball. Get tripped up by your inability to compute what's going on, then fall back on semantics.

Okay everyone, take an hour to type up vox's link here (as I just did) and read it. I won't dispute his quote. Unless I hack the site.

Scroll up a little and read his post before that one: "Does ANYONE have any use for this guy anymore....?"

(and then read my RESPONSE to that post, and what he writes afterwards)

I figured I'd show you. Which is what I did. Now you can kill this whole thing and be like, "AK, you were the one totally off-topic," which, at it's best, would only be half-true.

Still doesn't erase the fact you couldn't figure out what I've been trying to do on this thread since the first post. That's woeful.

Consider this round one. And consider this not over. The Kid is going to bed now (he has a life, remember?) I'll clock in tomorrow and we'll continue this. I promise.

I wouldn't want to leave everyone waiting.

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 4:36 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[American Kid]

Thanks vox for posting that thread for me, by the way.

-AK

[vox]

"and then read my RESPONSE to that post"

Here's a direct quote from AK, from the response he just told everyone to read: "The point is, he's bright..."

That's when I asked for some posts, because AK previously wrote that he'd "try to go back and site some."

It's very clear that I am right and AK is lying his ass off to save face.

It's very clear that AK completely misrepresented what I said (see my last post in this thread).

It's very clear that AK accuses me of "falling back on semantics" because he's been caught, red-handed, in what can only be called a LIE.

No one, of course, needs to take an hour to type a link, for it's a LINK, that you may simply click to be shown the proof of AK's LIE.

As for "round one" and "not over," hee! AK should pray that he doesn't tangle with me again. I'm right, he's wrong, and his schoolboy bravado doesn't change the FACTS.

vox

(Edited by vox at 2:38 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[Michael De Panama]

Pretending that this is what Vox did ask, what exactly would be the significance, aside from disproving Vox, in displaying that Capitalist Imperial has gotten a few compliments in the past?

What exactly is the point? Hell, I've said "you're right" a few times to "lenin" and Mazdak. That doesn't mean anything.

This looks like you're making a big fuss about nothing.

[marxistdisciple]

lol the lefties and righties fight while the world is falling to pieces Children, children

[American Kid]

"Save face"? What is this a Kurosawa film?

I'm kind of bummed out by vox's fanatical partisanship, as should even those on his quote unquote "side". Again, these are war words vox.

However, it's just blowhard histrionics.

That's a word you can ask your dad to help you look up in the dictionary, Mikey D. There's no "pretending" what vox asked, because...............uh, he asked it. Period. And he got an answer. I provided three substantial posts that CI has made, frosted with compliments from the enemy, lending a bit of integrity to them. This isn't a big fuss over nothing, little boy, and I wasn't the one who started it.

Interesting comrade to choose as someone to back also, Mikey, as you know as well as anything that the second he detects the tiniest morsel of dissension in anything you write in response to anything he's posted, he'll turn and stab you in the back with the same condescending patronization he does everyone else here.

vox reminds me of Tom Courtney in "Doctor Shivago". The reckless young revolutionary, full of himself and his know-it-all ideals. In the end though, he ends up irreperably scarred (emotionally and physically) as a result of these ruthless convictions. His stubborn fanaticism having materialed itself from the (rotten) inside out, as a reflection of his ugly, resentful, biased core.

anyway, the point is, your one-note Taliban-esque fanaticism is a bore. I think you're just angry and resentful. You probably think of yourself as a freedom-fighter with a big heart. You're not. You're an arrogant prick with no communication skills and the cadence of a copier machine. I don't know. Fight your war.

My point's been made.

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 4:54 am on Aug. 13, 2002)