Unfortunately, Ron Paul forgets the latter.Originally Posted by Bakunin
That, and he's an isolationist arsehole. He even advocates withdrawal from the UN.
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Unfortunately, Ron Paul forgets the latter.Originally Posted by Bakunin
That, and he's an isolationist arsehole. He even advocates withdrawal from the UN.
Ron paul and his supporters are idiots nuff said
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I think that the case of many with Ron Paul is that some ideas of his are interesting while a the others are ridiculous. I think its an easy way for American youth to label themselves rebels while still being "patriotic" and non-left. God forbid anyone is actually a commie.
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It's not perfect, but it sure is better than the US having no one to answer to.
You're not telling me you actually advocate isolationism, are you? surely no one is quite that stupid.
America's imperial interests exist independently of this or that international body.
The US was imperialist long before the setting up of the League of Nations, and would continue in that role as long as it remains a capitalist nation.
But I do agree with Kami; a US which has (at the very least) the most tiniest sense of responsibility to the international community is far better than a US which claims isolationism to rid itself of foreign criticism when conducting its imperialist acts.
If my idea of what it means is correct then yes. Do you agree with the Iraq "war"?
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V: “A building is nothing more than a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbols are given power by people. A symbol, in and of itself is powerless, but with enough people behind it, blowing up a building can change the world.”
"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete, but so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for mankind—in the Twilight Zone."
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Ron Paul=LOL
nuff said.
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No. Do you agree with sitting back and letting Hitler invade europe? I do believe that was the result last time you tried this "isolationism" farce
Well if you believe that isolationism is a farce then why not?
1. Hitler and his allies was a clear and immediate danger to this country.
2. We were asked to help.
We didn't go, "This guy isn't good so lets go and invade them because we disagree with there policies."
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V: “A building is nothing more than a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbols are given power by people. A symbol, in and of itself is powerless, but with enough people behind it, blowing up a building can change the world.”
"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete, but so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for mankind—in the Twilight Zone."
RevMARKSman :P - "He googled "Jesus" and came up with all of freakazoid's posts."
Because it was the needless slaughter of thousands. what more reason do I need?
1. Shut it with your "this country". The internet isn't American, and neither are all its denizens.
2. Yes, you were asked to help. And you did. Thankfully ending your isolationism just in time.
As to america's habit of invasions; if not for international pressure, you guys'd probably be in Iran already.
While I am no proponent of isolationism myself, having an international community to answer to did absolutely nothing in terms of the Iraq War. The UN did NOT condone an invasion by the US military but the powers that be saw it fit nonetheless and the UN were left basically pointing to a big bully but having no power to do anything about it.
Getting out of the UN would be a benefit because it is essentially a powerless entity. It goes along with the Ron Paul mentality of dropping the non-essentials from government - dead weight, if you will.
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But clearly it was all for a good cause, because who is claiming that Saddam was really a good person? So those people didn't die in vain. How many civilians died while fighting Hitler?
Yeah, the internet isn't American, and 2+2=4, so what is your point?
I don't know if it is isolationism seeing as how the whole part about him being a clear and immediate danger and being asked to help our allies. That and has America really been isolationist? Things like Vietnam and Iraq.
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V: “A building is nothing more than a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbols are given power by people. A symbol, in and of itself is powerless, but with enough people behind it, blowing up a building can change the world.”
"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete, but so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for mankind—in the Twilight Zone."
RevMARKSman :P - "He googled "Jesus" and came up with all of freakazoid's posts."
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So: if the U.S. interferes with global events, it's being imperialist. If it doesn't interfere with global events, it's being isolationist. Sophistry. Just state your true opinion, which is that America is evil; nothing it does can be good.
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There's quite a difference between assisting a country that's being invaded (which isolationism would exclude) and invading a country of your own volition. Lack of isolationism does not automatically mean you have to invade anywhere; both are equally bad policies.
I don't think America is evil, any more than I think Britain, or Iraq is evil. It's done an awful lot of bad things recently, but that is the fault of the administration, not the country.