Guerilla War

[Jblack0ut]

If you, like I, believe that the world will only listen if we fight for the left, post messages on this thread. I will willingly discuss weapons, tactics and planning for when we have won!

[Kronos]

J, the first rule of guerrilla warfare is: never discuss guerrilla warfare tactics on the internet.....especially not at the biggest communist site on the web.

If you want to organize guerrilla activities with someone else, do it anonymously and not at this site. Don't communicate through PMs either.

It is better to assume that we are being watched.

Furthermore, the days of real guerrilla warfare are over. You can utilize aspects of such tactics and strategies, but only in a very limited setting. Better to just get a few friends together at night and go hunting for capitalists. Your priority should be the big fish, not the petty bourgeois.

Vandalism is one of the most effective ways to strike a capitalist. Destroying his property or stealing his merchandise is a sure way to take money out of his pocket.

[Jblack0ut]

Actually, Kronos, you are right, though vandalism is not really a good word. It implies the petty destruction of a community (we are fighting for community, not against it), rather than the detruction of the capitalist authority. It is as in Che's famous text, 'Guerilla Warfare'. He says that terrorism (Essentialy vandalism on a huge and deadly scale) should not be used, as innocent supporters of the cause will be killed. Sabotage is what we need, a precision strike at the source.

[Jblack0ut]

Actually, what you said at the start of your post is wrong. I see no problem discusing tacticts or other such things, as long as there is no mention made of specific areas to strike, or instructions openly transfered.

[Kronos]

Good point, J.

The working class is beset on all side by the capitalist, even to the extent that if we were to destroy the property of one capitalist, another capitalist will make a profit. For example, if a capitalist uses his insurance to cover damages, his rates go up, in turn putting more money into the pocket of the capitalist who owns the insurance company.

The biggest problem with this kind of pestering is that it inevitably falls back onto the shoulders of the working class. The capitalist will always shift his debt onto the workers. For example, if a large volume of merchandise is stolen from a department store, the store will raise the costs of their products and/or give less raises to the employees, so that the lost profit margin can be gained back. Now you have consumer's paying more for a product because another consumer stole something.....or, working at minimum wage longer for the same reason.

However, there are a couple positive effects that result from this. One, raising costs decreases the chances of the capitalist remaining competitive in the market, and therefore he is closer to collapsing his business. Two, employees are more likely to quit and find a capitalist who will pay higher wages.

In this sense, while it seems to be detrimental to the workers, it is really only inconvenient. I would sooner force a worker to find another job than sit around and let a car dealership get richer and richer. So, if I burnt up fifty BMWs, the workers at the dealership would merely find another job if their commission was cut because of the damage, and, the consumers would merely buy another car if the prices of the replacement BMWs were raised to make up for lost profits from the cars that were destroyed. And finally, the factory workers at the plant who produce those BMWs, and who are subject to wage cuts because of the damage I did, would find somewhere else to work.

What is happening here is workers are either forced to join in the destruction, or remain backward and irrelevant. When Mao set out across bandit country with his small army, those who suffered from the destruction he reaped were given the opportunity to join him, or, remain backward and therefore at his disposal.

Really there is no way around it, other than a complete revolution covering the entire globe. It comes down to this: the lesser of two evils would be to remain complacent, rather than participating in crime against capitalists, even though the effects of the damage will be momentarily shifted onto other workers.

[Kronos]

I see no problem discusing tacticts or other such things, as long as there is no mention made of specific areas to strike, or instructions openly transfered.

Right. Talk about it in third person, in "as if" form.

[Jblack0ut]

Your right in both of your posts. Most 'stable' areas of the world, such as the US and E.U cannot be saved from capitalists. The only way to make any sort of difference would be to find an unstable and tyranicaly ruled country, like Cuba was, probably in the 3rd world, and overthrough their government, then allowing you to take on Western powers politically. I dont see any reason to keep this thread open, but if you do, please message before tommorrow.
If your interested, Im trying to open a thread on legal weapon instruction, over in DIY, you know, for target shooting and the like.

[Forward Union]

Vandalism is one of the most effective ways to strike a capitalist

I thought it was to organise the workplace and community?

Nevermind.

[ellipsis]

Read my blog, linked in my signature. A much better forum for what you are proposing.

[Vageli]

Comrade, I have started a similar post in the practice section.

revleft.com/vb/violent-revolution-todays-t76119/index.html?p=1135843

I am very interested in what you have to say.

[ellipsis]

I posted over there but the thread has dissolved into dizzle...

[Comrade B]

Read Che's book, it's pretty good