I have no doubt in my mind that there are a few antifa who are willing to spend the rest of thier lives in prison for sending mailbombs to fascist MPs.
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Your Response?
We are in serious danger of the fascists claiming seats in parliament!
For the last 3 years, the BNP has been growing in support.
Should, by some satanic miracle, they take power, waht will your reponse be? Revolution? Riot? War?
Give me your feedback on how you'd stop the fash.
I have no doubt in my mind that there are a few antifa who are willing to spend the rest of thier lives in prison for sending mailbombs to fascist MPs.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
well i am active in antifa and due to lack of support and those we can trust we have only been able to poster and graffitti as anti BNP action,
but we are n the process of widening our grouping in the area so maybe the fash will be gettin more abuse from us, if they get into power i would say that i would be fucked as a known communist and antiBNP activist
Some very positive responses there.
if the BNP gained a majority in the commons we would be persecuted and sent away with all the immigrants, however they would only get me onto a boat in a body bag. if they do win I will certainly riot and fight in the streets however futile it is
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"The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win
and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but
reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional
catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility."
-- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
I dunno, I wouldn't mind being 'repatriated' to somewhere with better weather
Lumpen As You Like!
antifa seems to be only organised in certain areas with a lot of the country not really represented at all. and i think people would have to take to the streets if the fash ever came into power. no point in talking about it action would have to happen.
There is no antifa type organisation round here even though the BNP are fast gaining support. It's basically down to individuals like me to protest, and being one of only a handful of leftists in my college, we are very few in number. The general consensus from most people is that I am a "Muzzie-lover" or something of a similar nature.
antifa is based far to much in the south of england, in my area there are about 3 'official members' that i work with and numerous more unofficial ones but not in hight enuf numbers to take direct action
you should be in scotland, at the moment there is not an official branch in the whole country!! antifa in scotland is reduced to an yahoo group!! which has virtually no activity on it. witness the bnp in glasgow at the moment trying to sell their papers on the street, they must have felt it was prime time to peddle their crap.
Antifa are organized in like three places in all of the UK, however in Glasgow we have a large number of regular anti fascists who regularly shout down and kick the BNP out of town.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.41
theweekylspectrum.wordpress.com - my Blog
"The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win
and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but
reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional
catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility."
-- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
There are organized antifa types in Scotland they just don't shout about it. Which you really shouldn't if you're going to be doing anything that is illegal.
Lumpen As You Like!
physical confrontation and community organization. It is the only way forward.
"The revolutionary is a doomed man" - Sergei Nechayev
If the BNP take power, dont let them put numbers on your arm iwth out a fight! build strenght, work with other groups, and then strike when the BNP are off guard. Destroy their news paper buildings and start your own. Play your selves off as liberals to win over people and not alienate other groups (we can finish them off later), and just try to put up resistance at all costs.
I think the likelihood of the BNP taking parliamentary seats in the next election is remote but it is evident that the BNP are garnering more and more support and if the May 1st council elections see significant gains then they are evidently on a clear trajectory to achieve seats in the Commons within the next ten years. Maybe even less.
In order to tackle this anti fascists need to physically confront them on the streets to destroy their confidence and organise in the community to destroy their ideas.
Last edited by The Feral Underclass; 28th April 2008 at 10:26.
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Capitalism, fascism, and imperialism are the same. Therefore, the British Empire already has a fascist regime, and needs to be changed. As always, I will support my comrades internationally, including those that happen to be in the British Empire. -Joe
"Democracy is the road to socialism." -Karl Marx
"The goal of socialism is communism." -Vladimir Lenin
"They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?" -Fidel Castro
"Some laws of state aimed at curbing crime are even more criminal." -Friedrich Engels
"War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun." -Mao Zedong
"I believe in one thing only, the power of human will." -Josef Stalin
"Better to die standing, than to live on your knees." -Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
how big of an somebody who is currently in america to make such a noble statement?!?
What would people in this thread be prepared to do in their communities right now?
Last edited by The Feral Underclass; 1st May 2008 at 12:07.
What the big deal? Fascists are just like regular bourgeois ideologues except at the far end of the scale, granted their methods of repression in the past against organized labor were far more brutal than other bourgeois political regimes. But on the whole they will have no say in any political matters.
Fascists are nothing but a sideshow these days for the real bourgeois authority, an authority which on the whole mostly resides with so called 'centrist', 'liberal' and 'social-democratic' parties - that is the real enemy.
Those people who are hanging out for another Hitler to rev up your leftist brigades are waiting for nothing, I think it would take a serious decay of capitalism; on part with another Depression, for people to turn to something akin to fascism.
I do however think a strong numbers approach to fascists is appropriate, in most cases fascists are the lumpenproletariat 'street vanguard' of the ruling class.
Last edited by Comrade Krell; 1st May 2008 at 13:49.
The BNP - a fascist party - are making significant gains the British political system.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Last edited by The Feral Underclass; 1st May 2008 at 16:55.
