9/11 Conspiracy Theories

[RNK]

In my travels (chuckle, snort) I've discovered that there exists a large number of people in the United States who believe that in one way or another, 9/11 was engineered or allowed by the US government. This interests me quite a bit and I've come to support this assessment.

So the poll is self-explanatory.

1 - It was an inside job! Numerous reports, including one by Steven Jones, indicate that the only way in which three skyscrapers (one of which wasn't even hit by a plane) could have collapsed in such a manner is by controlled demolitions. Compare accidental partial collapses of large buildings with the complete and total destruction wrought on WTC 1, 2, and inparticular 7; they all show the telltail signs of a controlled demolition.

2 - The "Pearl Harbour" paradigm! The US government had prior warning of the attack from dozens of sources but allowed them to happen, a strategic move they believed would give them a public excusal for an upsurge in imperialist activities. The invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, increasing military aggression in dozens of countries to suppress dissidents, and a crack-down on domestic civil liberties.

3 - Intelligence failure!! Failuire to prevent the attacks lies in gross incompetance on the part of US intelligence -- but they're sure as hell capitalized on the aftermath of the attacks.

[Psy]

It is suspicious how much time the US had to react, just because the transponder is turned off doesn't make the plane invisible to radar (they are actually easy to spot on radar), they claimed US air defence is doughnut but New York City is a coastal city that is the closest to Europe so any invasion of US airspace by Western European powers would be over New York City, it is also surprising the Pentagon didn't deploy any anti-air vehicles, a jet liner is a large slow moving object so any modern anti-air vehicle could easily take it down and they had 30 mins to deploy such anti-air divisions around strategic areas (with the Pentagon being a huge priority) after the second plane hit the WTC.

It is also pondering why the Pentagon didn't panic over such failures, those slow response times would mean the US could be decapitated by a surprise airborne attack on the Pentagon either through bombing or even dropping ground units near the Pentagon.

[RedAnarchist]

Either 2 or 3 in my opinion.

[queerpaganarchist]

I'd also say 2 or 3... there's really little doubt in my mind the government knew about it in some form before it happened, whether they let it happen on purpose or just failed to prevent it is up in the air for me. I do not believe it was an "inside-job."

[Pirate Utopian]

I voted 2.

[RNK]

Psy> It's actually very little to do with the time it took them to react. Originally they had no inclination to even investigate what occured. The evidence from the WTC was hurriedly cleaned up (they did not bother to investigate it thoroughly at all, unlike all other like attacks which they spent months investigating). It took pressure from certain sectors of congress and the victims' families for them to actually open up a wide-spread investigation (which Bush limited to only matters of intelligence).

The government has refused to release any of the dozen or so pieces of footage showing the plane crash into the Pentagon, leading many to believe it was a missile and not an aircraft that hit it.

The government has been trying to stop and stall the investigation since the day it happened.

[chimx]

Wow... just wow.

3

p.s.: I also believe Oswald was the sole assassin.

[Psy]

Psy> It's actually very little to do with the time it took them to react. Originally they had no inclination to even investigate what occured. The evidence from the WTC was hurriedly cleaned up (they did not bother to investigate it thoroughly at all, unlike all other like attacks which they spent months investigating). It took pressure from certain sectors of congress and the victims' families for them to actually open up a wide-spread investigation (which Bush limited to only matters of intelligence).

The government has refused to release any of the dozen or so pieces of footage showing the plane crash into the Pentagon, leading many to believe it was a missile and not an aircraft that hit it.

The government has been trying to stop and stall the investigation since the day it happened.

Actually the response time is very interesting, in 1987 a tiny Cessna landed in Red Square and many officers lost their post as the Russian military was totally embarrassed. Now you a large jet liner heading for the capital after two planes hit the WTC with a full half-hour for the US military to respond, are we to assume the US capital had no anti-air capabilities? Are we to assume the US military would rely totally on the ability of its interceptors (they were slow to react) and not try to take the airliner down from the ground?

[Luís Henrique]

I voted for 3, as it is the least crazed option. But in my opinion, the real issue is missing:

4. That's what you get when you mess with too much people at the same time, making more enemies than you are able to deal with.

Luís Henrique

[chimx]

I want to change my vote to 4

[RNK]

There Is No 4, There Is Only 3.

[Psy]

I think it far fetched that the US had the most humiliating failure of air defence in history without the branches of the US military blaming each other to save their own skin. Again we are talking a large slow moving object heading toward the capital for half an hour after the two planes hit the WTC.

If US air defence was really that bad then any world power could have easily decapitated the US by air dropping a large attack force to take the capital. As with such pathetic response times, by the time the US military was a threat to troop planes they would be empty and heading back.

[bcbm]

3. Think about it logically... the US government can't manage to kill the leader of a third-world country 90 miles from its shores, but they can pull off what would have to be the biggest conspiracy in modern history without a single leak? Pfft, yeah right.

[AGITprop]

Really, who did it, or who let it happen is irrelevant. What is important is to understand what this was. An excuse to go into the Middle-East, to wreak havoc and to return with oil in return for their "democratization". A bloody capitalist sham...

[FireFry]

You know what I think?? I think it was a mad mess. I think it's something that I'm sick of and something that I think that everybody should just get over.

It was a media trial of Osama Bin Laden, who isn't an American citizen, so technically he has zero rights, so that was legal. In fact, I bet there was nothing illegal that really happened on 9/11. What if it was all a mistake by pilots??

I mean, there was never any serious investigation into it, and since that day the media has been chaotic and mass confusion has reigned.

It gives me a headache just thinking about it, and I thought people would shut up about a week afterwards. But no, they're still *****ing about 8 years after.

Jesus christ....

[nvm]

definately #1
hitler did the same thing by burning the parliament and blaming the communists
Nero a roman emperor burned rome and blamed the christians
and zeitgeist proves that #1 is the truth!

[AGITprop]

definately #1
hitler did the same thing by burning the parliament and blaming the communists
Nero a roman emperor burned rome and blamed the christians
and zeitgeist proves that #1 is the truth!

Well i havent seen Zeitgeist but i still agree wih you comrade. It is all in the name of profit. Lose a few billion one day, make a hundred times more in the future.

[nvm]

then look up zeitgeist and watch the movie on their site
its worth ur time

[last_angry_man]

what happened? #3

why did it happen? #4 (That's what you get when you mess with too much people at the same time, making more enemies than you are able to deal with.)

[Psy]

3. Think about it logically... the US government can't manage to kill the leader of a third-world country 90 miles from its shores, but they can pull off what would have to be the biggest conspiracy in modern history without a single leak? Pfft, yeah right.

That is the CIA, for 9/11 we are talking about NORAD, US Air Force, US Army and the Pentagon.

Are we to assume the US Army couldn't in half an hour deploy SAMs to protect the capital from a large slow moving air liner with no counter measures?

Are we to assume to the US Air Force couldn't intercept a slow moving air liner? That NORAD couldn't direct fighters large slow moving air liners? The official story was NORAD had no capabilities to track the planes and had to rely on the FAA for coordinates which is a lie NORAD has far better tracing capabilities then the FAA.

Are we to assume it was normal for the Pentagon to simply let a airliner hit it?

Think back to Korean liner that was shot down by the USSR, that is how modern militaries actually respond when threatened by slow moving airliners, it doesn't long for modern jet fighters that can move twice the speed of sound to intercept a airliner.