There is no serious basis for my account being restricted to the "opposing ideologies" section.
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If you feel you were restricted unfairly, want an unrestriction or don't understand why you were restricted in the first place feel free to post here. If you make posts about your restrictions elsewhere be prepared to have them trashed or merged with this topic.
This is a fresh thread after the old thread grew too large.
Last edited by Jazzratt; 11th March 2008 at 22:19. Reason: Clarifying that this was a new thread, in case people were too thick to notice
Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.
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"Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.
Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
There is no serious basis for my account being restricted to the "opposing ideologies" section.
Could you at least explain this in the specific context of the reasons given for your restriction?
Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.
[FONT=Arial]Say what you mean and say it mean...[/FONT]
"Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.
Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
It may have something to do with your dismissal of the Taliban's womens' rights record, but I am sure that your pro-USSR and pro - DPKR comments have not been helpful.
I think you should re-evaluate your position on the Taliban, or at least clarify it, because that was very offensive to a lot of people.
When I said that, you went on a tirade!
[waits for him to go on a tirade]
Yeah, that was a big part of it. The whole argument that the Taliban expresses the interests of the workers was part of it. But generally, I agree. There is no basis for your restriction.
"The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Workers of the World Unite!" -Karl Marx
"The dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. " -Vladimir Lenin
"The People's democratic dictatorship needs the leadership of the working class. For it is only the working class that is most far-sighted, most selfless and most thoroughly revolutionary. The entire history of revolution proves that without the leadership of the working class revolution fails and that with the leadership of the working class revolution triumphs." -Mao Zedong
I never told him to post a self-criticism or apologize. That was what offended me last time; furthermore, I am not saying that reevaluating his opinion should be done for the sake of unrestriction, but for himself.
While I think Sky has been very tactless in his posts, I also don't agree with the restriction. I think Sky has a lot to learn, and should probably think more before he posts, but I don't think he's been disruptive to the point warranting a restriction.
for what reason have I been restricted?
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common
Economic Left/Right:-10.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-9.54
Vegan-Anarchist-Communist
The official reason appears to be that you are anti-technology. A thread in the CC is ongoing in regards to your possible unrestriction.
oh. cool thanks. Just to add to that, I ain't anti-tech.
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common
Economic Left/Right:-10.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-9.54
Vegan-Anarchist-Communist
Primitivists are restricted on this board as a matter of course (i don't agree with this, but it's how things are run)
As such, this comment:
Has been taken by some members to be an admission that you're some kind of primitivist - and thus should be restricted.Originally Posted by you
Also your comment from feb where you said you were against 'technology in general' has been used to demonstrate that you're 'anti-technology' - how do you respond to these claims?
Last edited by Black Dagger; 24th March 2008 at 12:31.
this is the same post that put in the anarchist group:
It's ridiculous that I can be restricted without people actually directly asking me if I'm anti-tech- then I'd be able to put them straight.
I believe in less tech, which would come from the overthrow of the ruling class as the need for surplus value would be elminated and thus also will competative companies trying to out do eachother.
So if that makes me a primmie then so be it.
Last edited by Kropotesta; 24th March 2008 at 12:34.
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common
Economic Left/Right:-10.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-9.54
Vegan-Anarchist-Communist
What do you mean by 'less technology' - which technology do you think should be done away with and why?
Also, can you please address the questions in my last post.
I am against polluting technologies. I'm against the ruling class being in control of technology/means of production.
less tech would be needed in an anarchist society because of no surplus value and no compettion. Also no competiton would, hopefully, lead to cleaner production so that the earth can recover.
any more you would like me to clear up?
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common
Economic Left/Right:-10.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-9.54
Vegan-Anarchist-Communist
What is your opinion of primitivism - are you any kind of primitivist?
Last edited by Black Dagger; 24th March 2008 at 12:48.
it's a nice idea but i don't like the thought of half the worlds pop dying.
no I ain't a primivitist.
Last edited by Kropotesta; 24th March 2008 at 12:51.
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common
Economic Left/Right:-10.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-9.54
Vegan-Anarchist-Communist
This is outrageous!
I am totally bereft of anything that would warrant restriction.
I'm anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, against all forms of discrimination.
I'm an accepted member of the IRL leftist community, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?!
You taken one of my jokes the wrong way, that's it.
Something to do with calling brazillians over-sexual or the jewish jokes.
It's the streotypes I find funny I'm not trying to put down entire nations!
All you need to do is say something about sheep, bad cooking and introvertedness and you've got a decent faux flame war going.
Jesus Motherfucking Christ!!!!
I am probably the least racist person on the face of the fucking earth, it's a fucking pet issue for me.
This is just too much.
Explanation??!!
There were actually several issues which prompted your restriction. These included your threats of violence against leftists who defended the cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed, your questionable stance on late-term abortions, your belief that two parents of opposite sex are required for a healthy upbringing (i.e. opposition to gay adoption) as well as your crude sexist and chauvinist jokes. When we calculated the votes, restriction received the most votes in favour, and hence you are restricted. One can assume that if you show a change in your position on all of these issues, you may be un-restricted, but this is not certain.
I would suggest that if you want the CC to seriously consider your un-restriction, you adopt a less confrontational tone, accept that you have violated the guidelines of the board, and set about demonstrating that you have a genuine commitment to socialism.
Have fun in OI!
I tend to agree with Xiao.
"The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Workers of the World Unite!" -Karl Marx
"The dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. " -Vladimir Lenin
"The People's democratic dictatorship needs the leadership of the working class. For it is only the working class that is most far-sighted, most selfless and most thoroughly revolutionary. The entire history of revolution proves that without the leadership of the working class revolution fails and that with the leadership of the working class revolution triumphs." -Mao Zedong
Xiao, you tried to make a thread about anti-semitic jokes twice!
I agree with bob that you should be restricted, but if you change in the future, I'll more be more than happy, as will others, to vote for your unrestriction.
I SAW those. I personally was suprised you gave the guy a second chance.
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