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    Default What is Fidel Castro's legacy?

    The Cuban president is stepping down after leading the island since a revolution almost 50 years ago. How should the world remember him?

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    As a symbol.
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    As a revisionist.

    "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

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    "The dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. " -Vladimir Lenin

    "The People's democratic dictatorship needs the leadership of the working class. For it is only the working class that is most far-sighted, most selfless and most thoroughly revolutionary. The entire history of revolution proves that without the leadership of the working class revolution fails and that with the leadership of the working class revolution triumphs." -Mao Zedong
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    Defender of 3rd World rights. Bringing Social justice, both to the Cuban portal and the international portal. Inspired millions to do the right thing...God damn if anyone establishs a snippet of his great social achievements, it will be a proud moment.

    Long live Fidel.
    Long Live the Revolution.
    May you enjoy your retirement, because you damn deserve it after years of hard work
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    Defender of 3rd World rights. Bringing Social justice, both to the Cuban portal and the international portal. Inspired millions to do the right thing...God damn if anyone establishs a snippet of his great social achievements, it will be a proud moment.

    Long live Fidel.
    Long Live the Revolution.
    May you enjoy your retirement, because you damn deserve it after years of hard work
    Whoo. I'm really sick of all this Castro-bashing. Hardly perfect, hardly managed his "revolution" as any one of us would, but, I don't know, it's hard to phrase. You all know what I mean though.
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    Even though he was a revisionist, revisionists are better than nothing. Cuba is much better than it was in 1959, and many of its current programs (health care, etc) are good. His legacy is modernizing a colony and standing up to US imperialism while at its front door. (Albeit seeking refuge in Soviet social-imperialism and neo-colonialism instead)
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    I'll regard him as a revolutionary, pionier of socialism in Latin-America and oposer of US imperialism.
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    Out of curiosity: why hasn't a party congress been convened since 1997?

    [This is not the sign of someone who is committed to intra-party democracy.]
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    Even though he was a revisionist, revisionists are better than nothing. Cuba is much better than it was in 1959, and many of its current programs (health care, etc) are good. His legacy is modernizing a colony and standing up to US imperialism while at its front door. (Albeit seeking refuge in Soviet social-imperialism and neo-colonialism instead)
    I agree. He was a revisionist, but I believe he had the interests of his people in mind for the most part. I think he did as best he could given the circumstances.
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    Even though he was a revisionist, revisionists are better than nothing. Cuba is much better than it was in 1959, and many of its current programs (health care, etc) are good. His legacy is modernizing a colony and standing up to US imperialism while at its front door. (Albeit seeking refuge in Soviet social-imperialism and neo-colonialism instead)
    Of course that is true. He is a social democrat who developed Cuba and improved conditions for the masses within the framework of capitalism. I think his greatest achievement is the liberation of Cuba from Imperialist domination.
    "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

    Workers of the World Unite!" -Karl Marx

    "The dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. " -Vladimir Lenin

    "The People's democratic dictatorship needs the leadership of the working class. For it is only the working class that is most far-sighted, most selfless and most thoroughly revolutionary. The entire history of revolution proves that without the leadership of the working class revolution fails and that with the leadership of the working class revolution triumphs." -Mao Zedong
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    As one of the most prolific revolutionary leaders of his time. He has done an extraordinary amount to further the cause of socialism and of the working class in Cuba, Latin America and around the world.

    What is his legacy? A socialist Cuba and a stronger communist movement, for starters.
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    Under Fidel's leadership Cuba survived having something like 75% of their trade cut off overnight, and despite this they still assured everybody access medical care, education, food, and housing, while living ninety miles from a hostile superpower that's overthrown nearly every other revolution in the area and made countless attempts at overthrowing the Cuban revolution. In contrast, the US refuses to provide all of it's population with food, housing, medical care, or education despite being richest country in the world. If 75% of our trade was cut off overnight, millions would die in the following years, millions more would suffer horribly, and the ruling classes would pretend those people deserved it.

    Fuck capitalism! Viva Fidel!
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    Of course that is true. He is a social democrat who developed Cuba and improved conditions for the masses within the framework of capitalism. I think his greatest achievement is the liberation of Cuba from Imperialist domination.
    Yes I think he's the living example, that a revolution is indeed posible, and that it is possible to liberate from the grip of the US. To bad my home country Mexico doesn't follow cuba's example.
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    A congress is really only an institution where a party or group gathers to discuss matters of internal interest; they are not national democratic functions. The cuban people's assemblies have always met at their regular intervals, for instance at this very moment they are gathering to conclude who should replace Fidel until the next general elections.
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    Under Fidel's leadership Cuba survived having something like 75% of their trade cut off overnight, and despite this they still assured everybody access medical care, education, food, and housing, while living ninety miles from a hostile superpower that's overthrown nearly every other revolution in the area and made countless attempts at overthrowing the Cuban revolution. In contrast, the US refuses to provide all of it's population with food, housing, medical care, or education despite being richest country in the world. If 75% of our trade was cut off overnight, millions would die in the following years, millions more would suffer horribly, and the ruling classes would pretend those people deserved it.

    Fuck capitalism! Viva Fidel!
    Amen to that!

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