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    JR:

    And I don't use that narrow definition of "sectarianism" in my polemics over in my user group, either
    Aaannd...
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    I guess it's easy to make things up in other threads, since most people won't bother to look up the post in question.

    Of course I didn't actually say what you claim, but instead pointed out that communists don't judge things by the number of deaths involved, but by analyzing class forces.
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    NHIA:

    Of course I didn't actually say what you claim, but instead pointed out that communists don't judge things by the number of deaths involved, but by analyzing class forces.
    Well, let's see what you said:

    Okay, so lets go by your liberal perspective in judging of what is 'better.' Were more people "blown up" in revolutionary Afghanistan or under the Taliban? You get two guesses.
    http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...9&postcount=19

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    Judging things by 'how many people were blown up' instead of by examing class forces is a liberal perspective.
    http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...6&postcount=25

    So, yes you did qualify what you said; but that does not let you off the hook, for your name should be, if you are concerend be seen as no liberal, 'Nothing Human, Depending On The Class Forces Involved, Is Alien'.

    You see how ridiculous your earlier pedantry was? Calling me a 'liberal' for not dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't'.

    If I am a liberal, then so are you for missing class forces out of your name.
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    CdeL, I fail to see why you are so hostile to us "Cliffites". Is it the Cuba thing?
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    To the OP:

    What specific criticisms do you have of the SWP?

    Your opening post was rather vague and I think that if a party is to be criticised, criticism is good if the intention is a contructive debate that can improve the party's politics, then specific aspects/policies should be addressed.

    I have my own criticisms of the SWP and would like to discuss them, if the OP highlighted what he saw as being wrong with the SWP.
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