The Mexican Communist Party was also dominated by its left wing until the stalinist counterrevolution.
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Trotskyism and the Internationalist Communist Left
One member of the Trotskyist group wrote:http://www.revleft.com/vb/left-commu...475/index.htmlOriginally Posted by Herman
Trotsky himself had very different ideas:
The left communists rejected joint work with the Trotskyists after the Trotskyists returned to social democracy:Originally Posted by Trotsky, 1929
As for the working class, the PCInt had almost 50,000 members in the period after the Second War. I don't think that any Trotskyist party has ever archived that.Originally Posted by Bilan
In the revolutionary period, the majority of both the German, and Italian parties, the two countries in the west closet to revolution, belonged to the left-wing.
Today communists are week. The left communist organisations especially so. I think that historically though it would be more accurate to say that Trotskyism has never been popular with the working class.
Devrim
The Mexican Communist Party was also dominated by its left wing until the stalinist counterrevolution.
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Really, I could care less what Trotsky said. I don't consider myself a trotskyist (I know the user group thing is misleading) and I certainly don't praise Trotsky. I do however agree with some of his ideas, notably the "Permanent Revolution" theory, just as I don't disagree with everything left-communists say. However, your insistence on calling "bourgeois" national-liberation movements and the continuous criticism of trade unions honestly makes my blood boil.
And I would have to agree. Your point? If you wanted to infuriate me, make me angry, jump at your throat or something, then you've failed. Of course, I could add that "Stalinist" or Marxist-leninist organizations have had many more members historically than both, but I won't, since I know that you'll start talking about "counter-revolution", "traitors" or "bourgeois state-capitalists" and I don't want to start such a discussion now (I will say that the PCE acted wrongly during the Spanish revolution).
If you read the principles of the "New Communist" group, you'll get an indication of where I am politically. I don't adhere to one current, as if it could explain everything. Trotsky and Stalin are dead, and calling yourself a "trotskyist" or "stalinist" is meaningless. If you read on Pablo Iglesias, then I would call myself a "Pablista" if anything.
Last edited by Herman; 13th February 2008 at 21:51.
"El ideal del P.S.O.E. es la completa emancipación de la clase trabajadora; Es decir, la abolición de todas las clases sociales y su declaración y conversión en una sola clase de trabajadores, dueños del fruto de su trabajo, libres, iguales, honrados e inteligentes." -Pablo Iglesias (founder of PSOE and UGT)
"Quienes contraponen liberalismo y socialismo, o no conocen el primero o no saben los verdaderos objetivos del segundo." -Pablo Iglesias
Art. 1.º España es una República democrática de trabajadores de toda clase, que se
organiza en régimen de Libertad y de Justicia.
No, I have no desire to do any of these. I was just correcting a historical inaccuracy. Rather than the left communists 'hav[ing] never been popular with the working class', they composed the majority of the two most important Western parties in the revolutionary period.Originally Posted by Herman
Devrim
