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    Default Anti-Scientology Demo!

    London

    10th February

    11AM

    The London Church of Scientology
    146 Queen Victoria Street
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    Wear a mask. Cya there.


    http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/01/390195.html
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    It was irresponsible to advertise this march without also posting the full code of conduct for the safety of protesters. As Wat said, wear a mask. Also stay away from any known Scientology members, and if any of them come up and start hassling you I hear you're supposed to start reciting the story of Xenu which will make them go away (that sounds so ridiculous though I'm not sure if it's true). Do not walk directly home after the protest, or walk down any dark or empty streets to get home. Try not to walk alone during or for a while after the protest, as Scientologists have a reputation for harassment and kidnapping.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-063clxiB8I
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    I have heard rumors of a second protest on march the 15th, worldwide. anyone who wishes to go to one in adelaide PM me.
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    have you guys heard of Anonymous? they're radical ant-scientologists who have been responsible for the eradication of various scientologist websites and they've gone about causing problems for the general scientology movement. I wonder if there's a protest in Glasgow on the 15....
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    Brilliant video - what is the consensus on this "Anonymous" group?

    (Shite name in my opinion though, makes it difficult to distinguish between "the anonymous group" and "the Anonymous Group".)

    deathboy.livejournal.com/1082404.html

    Great account of the yesterday's demo - looks like brilliant fun.

    (Sorry about the mangled URLs - not allowed to post links yet.)
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    "How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"
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    I hope you weren't handing out fliers that I got at the philly demo:

    Ask a Christian about the Bible and you will be answered.
    Ask a Jew about the Torah and you will be answered.
    Ask a Muslim about the Quaran and you will be answered.

    Ask a Scientologist to explain their tezts and you will be answered...after your check clears.
    Clearly, those other religions are superior.
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    Brilliant video - what is the consensus on this "Anonymous" group?

    (Shite name in my opinion though, makes it difficult to distinguish between "the anonymous group" and "the Anonymous Group".)

    deathboy.livejournal.com/1082404.html

    Great account of the yesterday's demo - looks like brilliant fun.

    (Sorry about the mangled URLs - not allowed to post links yet.)
    Is'nt Anonymous Encyclopedia Dramatica's creation?
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    What was the demand of the protesters exactly?
    Lenin’s internationalism is by no means a form of reconciliation of Nationalism and Internationalism in words but a form of international revolutionary action. The territory of the earth inhabited by so-called civilized man is looked upon as a coherent field of combat on which the separate peoples and classes wage gigantic warfare against each other. No single question of importance can be forced into a national frame.

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    The saddest part of this religion is that even if two parents are scientologists and don't outright preach or attempt to convert others, since the parents do not believe in medicine, the child is not allowed to take medicine given to him in a possible emergency.

    In other words, this religion is inhibiting the freedom of choice for other humans.

    Why aren't the pro-life loons freaking out about this?
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    If you guys are interested in this you can check out the press release Missouri Anonymous put out the morning of Feb 10. It's pretty good, and we're getting a lot of recognition on YouTube and Digg.

    Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Ladies and gentlemen of the public and the press,

    Today, working in concert with concerned citizens from all over the world, Anonymous has staged a large number of simultaneous public demonstrations at Church of Scientology centers around the globe. Now that we have made evident the sincerity of our intentions and the strength of our dedication, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify our objectives to the press and to the public. There have been a number of myths and misconceptions surrounding the nature of our means and intentions. Among these is the idea that our declaration of war is to be interpreted as a threat of physical harm against individuals affiliated with the Church of Scientology.

    Allegations that Anonymous wishes to physically harm any human being as a part of our campaign against the cult of Scientology are patently untrue. As stated in one of our productions, the intention of Anonymous is to 'systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form'. Our struggle is directed against the toxic ideals and behavior of the corrupt, violent, and abusive leadership of the Church of Scientology, not against the lives of those who have become entangled with it. Know this: though we oppose all that they stand for, even the highest officers of this cult will not be harmed physically by Anonymous. Our battle is one of ideas. As we speak, it is being fought and won in the hearts and minds of the worlds honest citizenry and their leaders. The ideological nature of our struggle brings us to another common misconception regarding the objectives of Anonymous in this campaign.

    Although many of us are put off by L. Ron Hubbard's religious doctrine, we do not oppose the right of individuals to follow beliefs of their choice. As set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, "everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion". Anonymous, as a whole, honors the spirit of this declaration. We fight against the atrocities - not the beliefs - of the brainwashing cult known as the Church of Scientology. The acts of defamation, intimidation and murder perpetrated by this criminal organization galvanize our resolve to fight against it. Our righteous indignation is directed against the hypocrisy of this institution, not against the faith of its members. As an illustrative example of our stance, we would like to draw your attention toward a group of individuals who practice L. Ron Hubbard's teachings, but have disaffiliated themselves from the Church of Scientology. They are known as the Freezone. Anonymous bears no animosity toward an organization such as this one.

    Many of you may wonder how Anonymous plans on launching into the task of dissolving the Church of Scientology. As a fundamentalist, totalitarian organization that seeks control of information and manipulation through fear, the Church of Scientology possesses inherent flaws. Anonymous is studying these flaws, and has made them the basis of a long-term strategy.

    Our first major objective is the revocation of this cult's tax-exempt status wherever it has managed to obtain one. Indeed, the privileges awarded to the Church of Scientology under US law are significantly more generous than those enjoyed by major religions. As set out by the appellants in Sklar v. Commissioner, training offered through the Church of Scientology is tax deductible, while that obtained through legitimate religious institutions is not. The status of the Church of Scientology as a tax exempt religion is an affront to honest religious organizations. However, its special status with the US IRS which places it above and beyond other religions is not merely an affront, but a slap in the face.

    Other objectives set out by Anonymous at the present time include - but are not limited to - exposing the criminal practices of the Church to public scrutiny, neutralization of its fraudulently obtained assets and corresponding operations, the liberation of members coerced and blackmailed to work for the Church in illegitimate ways, declaration of the Church and its shell corporations as prohibited criminal organizations and the criminal prosecution of the persons responsible for particularly heinous acts performed in the name of this Church.

    Throughout our struggle, we maintain the following thesis: that the Church of Scientology was founded for purposes incompatible with a society holding dear a respect for human rights and the rule of law. These nefarious purposes can only be achieved through criminal enterprise, and remain objectives of the Church to this day. We further maintain that this criminal enterprise is operated by its leaders knowingly and willingly, and that the true extent and tone of the Church's activity is outrageous and sickening. These statements are not contrived, but based on conclusions derived from extensive study of Church history. Our sources include its own documents, the testimonies of its victims, the words of those who have escaped it and educational materials that the Church would keep secret for fear of exposure. We therefore consider the Church of Scientology a despicable criminal organization which, through the indoctrination of its members, predation upon those in need, the dissemination of lies regarding its nature, by way of sadistic retaliatory practices against its critics and through its cynical abuse of civil liberties has forfeit any right it had to exist.

    On several occasions, figures within the media have casually dismissed Anonymous as nothing more than a gaggle of restless youth. We remain entirely undeterred by their remarks. Virtually all age groups, creeds and professions are represented within our ranks. Many who are not affiliated with Anonymous have expressed support for our campaign. Their words serve to further underscore the broad demographic base of our initiative. If you remain doubtful of our strength and resolve, we invite you to observe them for yourselves.

    Actions speak louder than words. In the name of those who have been silenced by the criminal organization that is the Church of Scientology, Anonymous will be heard. Our cause is just. We shall prevail.

    We are Anonymous.
    We have Awoken.
    We stand as One.
    The video for this can be found here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SQKbHBqDwSI

    The Kansas City demo went very well, we had about 70 of us out protesting in front of the Church of Scientology center. I'm actually pretty impressed with our area: Wichita, KS had about 30 protesters and the St. Louis folks were about 80 strong.

    We got national media attention but the issue was totally whitewashed in the local media, at least for KC. We called the press like 24/7 a week up to the event and had another press release just for the KC demo, but they never came. There was at least one Scientologist taking pictures and video of us, I guess.

    It went very well. We coverd three corners and tuns of cars driving by were honking in support, it was great. Here's some pictures:

    http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?i...c001313jn9.jpg
    http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?i...c001111fq3.jpg
    http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?i...c004949gw8.jpg
    http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?im...c006363ct6.jpg

    Here's an (incomplete) running head count:


    Asia and Oceania:
    200-300 in Sydney, Australia
    150 in Adelaide, Australia
    150 in Melbourne, Australia
    100 in Perth, Australia
    100 in Brisbane, Australia
    5 in Canberra, Australia
    15-20 in Auckland, New Zealand
    15-20 in Christchurch, New Zealand
    6 in Tel Aviv, Israel
    1 in Tokyo, Japan
    Total: 10 raids, 4 countries, 742-852 people

    Europe:
    500 in London, United Kingdom
    150 in Manchester, United Kingdom
    130 in Edinburgh, United Kindom
    50 in Birmingham, United Kingdom
    20 in Plymouth, United Kingdom
    20 in York, United Kingdom
    15 in Sunderland, United Kindom
    5 in Brighton, United Kingdom
    50 in Stockholm, Sweden
    25 in Gothenburg, Sweden
    12-13 in Malmö, Sweden
    25 in Berlin, Germany
    20-25 in Duesseldorf, Germany
    15-25 in Hamburg, Germany
    50 in Copehagen, Denmark
    3 in Aarhus. Denmark
    6 in Zürich, Switzerland
    5 in Geneve, Switzerland
    80 in Dublin, Ireland
    42-60 in Oslo, Norway
    40-60 in Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    30 in Brussels, Belgium
    20-30 in Paris, France
    12 in Vienna, Austria
    Total: 24 raids, 11 countries, 1325-1389 people

    North America:
    500 in Los Angeles, California
    200-250 in San Francisco, California
    100 in Sacramento, California
    65-70 in San Diego, California
    40 in Mountain View, California
    25 in Santa Barbara, California
    13 in Chico, California
    10 in San Jose, California
    8 in Santa Cruz, California
    320 in New York City, New York
    50 in Buffalo, New York
    40 in Albany, New York
    10-15 in Ontario, New York
    25 in Rochester, New York
    160 in Austin, Texas
    115 in Dallas, Texas
    100-150 in Houston, Texas
    8 in San Antonio, Texas
    200 in Clearwater, Florida
    200 in Orlando, Florida
    100-110 in Miami, Florida
    3-5 in Broward County, Florida
    80 in Colombus, Ohio
    75 in Cincinnati, Ohio
    15 in Cleveland, Ohio
    200 in Seattle, Washington
    18 in Bellingham, Washington
    65-150 in Chicago, Illinois
    30 in Champaign, Illinois
    135 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    30-40 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    80 in St. Louis, Missouri
    65-70 in Kansas City, Missouri
    150 in Detroit, Michigan
    20 in Battle Creek, Michigan
    60 in Phoenix, Arizona
    50 in Tucson, Arizona
    90 in Denver, Colorado
    12-15 in Boulder, Colorado
    45 in Nashville, Tennessee
    40 in Memphis, Tennessee
    45 in Las Vegas, Nevada
    15 in Reno, Nevada
    20 in New Orleans, Louisiana
    20 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
    270 in Boston, Massachusetts
    200 in Washington, D.C.
    150-200 in Atlanta, Georgia
    150-200 in Portland, Oregon
    100 in Minneapolis, Minnesota
    70 in Salt Lake City, Utah
    50 in Charlotte, North Carolina
    40 in Louisville, Kentucky
    35 in New Haven, Connecticut
    35 in Richmond, Virginia
    25-30 in Indianapolis, Indiana
    25 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    25 in Wichita, Kansas
    20 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
    17-20 in Honolulu, Hawaii
    16 in Anchorage, Alaska
    9 in Boise, Idaho
    5 in Brunswick, Maine
    1 in Biloxi, Mississippi
    200-250 in Toronto, Ontario
    30 in Ottawa, Ontario
    20 in Kitchener, Ontario
    3 in London, Ontario
    140-200 in Vancouver, British Columbia
    80 in Montreal, Quebec
    40 in Edmonton, Alberta
    30 in Winnipeg, Manitoba
    30 in Halifax, Nova Scotia
    Total: 71 raids, 2 countries, 5318-6909 people

    Overall Total: 106 raids, 17 countries, 7625-8150 people
    For some general information about it, check out http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews...ests_worldwide
    and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_chanology

    The next worldwide day of demonstration is March 15, 2008, although different local protests may change that date. The significance of this day is that it's the closest weekend to L. Ron Hubbard's birthday as well of the Ides of March.

    February 10 marked the birthday of Lisa McPherson, who was a young woman who needed psychological care but was made to refuse it by the Church. She passed away while under the care of the Church of Scientology due to negligence and pseudoscientific medical treatment.
    Did you hear about the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete?
    Proving nature's law is wrong it learned to walk with out having feet.
    Funny it seems, but by keeping its dreams, it learned to breathe fresh air.
    Long live the rose that grew from concrete when no one else ever cared.
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    1 in Biloxi, Mississippi
    Wow, you gotta admire that person's courage.
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    Originally Posted by RS16
    Also stay away from any known Scientology members, and if any of them come up and start hassling you I hear you're supposed to start reciting the story of Xenu which will make them go away (that sounds so ridiculous though I'm not sure if it's true).
    There were lots of Scientology members out among the crowds. Many Church centers even had vans out taping the event, some disguised as ice trucks (seriously). From what I've read from former Scientologists, members are not allowed to know about Xenu, Body Thetans, or other aspects of the religion until they have reached a sufficient level within Scientology which typically takes many years to obtain. They're supposed to disavow any knowledge of these concepts and deny their existence, and when they reach the appropriate Operating Thetan level they must sign an agreement saying that they will not disclose information concerning these matters to anyone below their level.
    Did you hear about the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete?
    Proving nature's law is wrong it learned to walk with out having feet.
    Funny it seems, but by keeping its dreams, it learned to breathe fresh air.
    Long live the rose that grew from concrete when no one else ever cared.
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    All organised religions creep me out but Scientology is fucking terrifying. plus it was just hatched up by some sleazy con man looking for a ton of cash it's not like it's been around for centuries
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    lol this was organized by people from 4chan.org, who are a bunch of nerds that jack off at underage, cartoon porn.

    i would never think a bunch of people like that would be able to organize a protest.

    BTW all of this is a BIG TROLL, and its hilarious how people take Anonymous seriously.
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    ^ 1.) does it matter who started it?

    2.) it is not just 4chan(in fact it has nothing really to do with 4chan.), or even just the chans. it is larger than them.
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    lol, no?

    For one thing the majority of planning was done on partyvan IRC, and not on the chans. The planning that *was* done on the chans was done on 711cha's /i/ and now /xenu/ boards, as threads in 420chan/4chan automatically get baleeted. A great deal of it was also done on the partyvan wiki.

    As far as action goes, most of the people doing this are quite the newfags, and only recently heard about all this. Many think that 'anonymous' was created for this one raid, and know nothing about the chans.

    This raid was truly decentralized--it was done on irc, via email, wikis, chans, even the mainstream news reported on it (A LOT).

    EDIT: lol, I thought I saw a couple red/black flags at the protests..
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    Does anyone have any information about WHERE the next London, Ontario protest is going to be? I was unavailable for the 10th but I would like to attend this one, and this is the only site I've been able to find where anyone might have information about it, outside of forums to which I would have to pay to join.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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    ^ http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology
    that should help you find it.
    sorry I cant be more help.
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    Thank you.
    I found an email address of someone to contact for information.

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