Fascist Trade Unions

[kromando33]

I think I'd like to reflect now on the nature of the so called 'Vertical Trade Union', and to generate discussion on the need to oppose the 'collaborationist' trade unions and establish unions as a direct representative function of the proletariat, not as utilitarian functions and indeed arms of the bourgeois state.

Indeed, a great threat to the proletarian movement is the domination of ultra-bureaucratic trade unions with strong links to the established bourgeois state. This 'collaboration' between the union apparachiks and the bourgeois governments ensures general strikes, wage disputes and the like are all handled within this centralized system.

The idea that the proletariat can collaborate and indeed 'merge' our interests with that of the bourgeois is thoroughly an anti-Marxist position refuted by material conditions. It rejects the notion of class struggle and the mutually exclusive interests of both the bourgeois and proletariat. In reality such a 'deal' is in effect just 'class struggle 101' for the bourgeois, the same way the 'New Deal' system of high wages and welfare capitalism in the 9th century was an attempt to retain the bourgeois dictatorship in more subtle and sinister ways following the Great October Socialist Revolution.

So although openly fascist trade unions, in the national syndicalist model, notably the Organización Sindical Española in Francoist Spainand Ministry of Corporations in Fascist Italy, no longer exist, the tendency toward 'class collaboration' in modern trade unions, and especially a close relationship with 'social democratic' or liberal bourgeois parties and governments has endured.

What the socialist movement needs in a trade union is an organization attached directly to the vanguard party as a tool of class struggle against the bourgeois state, to agitate with strikes, and not to fall into the fascist trap of associating our own interests with that of the bourgeois.

[Forward Union]

So although openly fascist trade unions, in the national syndicalist model, notably the Organización Sindical Española in Francoist Spainand Ministry of Corporations in Fascist Italy, no longer exist

They're actually coming back!

The BNP (British National Party) has actually set up a new Scab Union called Solidarity which produces a free news-sheet called "The British Worker". What's frightning is that it actually compares itself to the IWW and the CNT, arguing for "one big union" "

Solidarity aims to

"improve the relations between employers and employees throughout all industries served by the union"; "to protect, assist and promote the working and living conditions of the citizens of the British Isles"

"resist and oppose all forms of institutional union corruption"

"promote freedom within and without the Trades Union movement, protecting and promoting freedom of belief, thought and speech, irrespective of political and religious affiliation or creed".

amongst other shit.

Now, I haven't actually heard much about it's success rates, and I suspect it's actually a failing BNP project. But it tells you alot about their confidence, and a greater insight into the tactics they like to use.

[Dr Mindbender]

...so what is their view on the right to strike? Or left wing affiliations?

Other than the union jack and fairly jingo-ist red white and blue font theres little striking me which suggests this is a BNP project.

The BNP are going to have a tough time preaching about 'diversity'

[Vendetta]

Is that last little bullet a joke?

[Devrim]

We have fascist unions in Turkey too.
Devrim

[Forward Union]

...so what is their view on the right to strike? Or left wing affiliations?

They obviously support strikes that put pressure in their favour. Not all strikes are beneficial for the working class, for example the race strikes in the 70s.

Other than the union jack and fairly jingo-ist red white and blue font theres little striking me which suggests this is a BNP project.

It's run by the BNP, it's pollitical fund donates to the BNP, it defends BNP members. Furthermore:

"We are the only union that recognises that the true purpose of a union is to defend the rights and jobs of British workers against the globalists who put British workers out of work by encouraging Mass Migration and do little or nothing to prevent the Off-Shoring of jobs. We understand that the true function of a Union is to represent and promote the interests of its members and British workers generally."

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

I read about this when it was formed.... dangerous if it becomes popular. But at the moment it seems to be a small group of fascists, who , due to BNP links, arent that credible

[Die Neue Zeit]

I read about this when it was formed.... dangerous if it becomes popular. But at the moment it seems to be a small group of fascists, who , due to BNP links, arent that credible

I see that I need to be more politically active in this board instead of posting too much stuff in the Theory forum.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?t=67967

I was inspired by Rosa's thread in Workers' Actions on workers' activity in China and by one of the key points of Lars Lih's Lenin Rediscovered regarding the original "social democracy":

Originally posted by Me
Remember, the original idea behind "social democracy" was the merger of scientific socialism (then in its "Marxist" form) and the workers' movement!

This premise implies the separate origins of the socialist movement and the workers' movement, and since I read the review above several months ago, this caused me to ask my old question regarding the startling class demographics of neo-fascist parties in a Learning thread:

Is neo-fascism now a faux "workers' movement"?

I'd like to revise that question slightly (different places for quotation marks): Is neo-fascism now a "faux" workers' movement (ie, genuine but self-defeating)?

What about, for another example (two links), the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?



Given the further implications posed by the questions above, I'd like to ask overall: what is a workers' movement?

I think the question above needs answers if we are to properly confront fascist trade unions.