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    Irish Facists Get Their Day In Court

    national | miscellaneous | news report Monday November 26, 2007 18:25

    by Ngomo Abele Sakala

    Irish Facists sentenced to prison.

    The Celtic Wolves Summer camp came to an abrupt end when Gardai arrive on the scene in Wicklow on September 9th last. Six pissed nazis were sat around a camp fire in the Ballinastoe woods wearing Doc Marten boots and combats. Flags decorating the campsite included an Afrikaner supremacist flag, a swastika, a celtic wolves flag (a tricolour with a celtic cross and wolf on it) and a plain old celtic cross on a black background. When the Gardai arrived and instructed the assembled group to move on the three non-irish Celtic Wolves!!!!!!!!, duly obeyed. The three Irish were more reluctant (or more pissed) and failed to move. All six were cahrged with distribution/possesion of material that was threatening and abusive and other public order offences. The foreigners Miroslav Dombai, Frantisek Janostak and Frantisek Julius had their charges dismissed. The Irish were convicted Denis Kavanagh 32 of 58 Main Street, Wicklow got two months in prison and fined 600 euros, Kieran McNeill 19 Clonthread, Moate, Co. Westmeath got the same both appealed and were released on 3000 euro bail. Jack Cummins Ballyfaskin, Ballylanders, Limerick had his case adjourned to December 5 after a medical cert was handed in on his behalf.

    Follow the action at Wicklow District court on December 5th when the last of the accused appears again.

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    Why did you put that they were "fucking"?
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    Probably to attract sex-mad people, perhaps? :P


    What was the need for them to have some stupid little camp for anyway?
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    Why did you put that they were "fucking"?
    Why? whats your fucking problem?

    There's many uses for the word fucking. I couldnt fit in "fucking about". Or would there have been something wrong with that aswell?

    What was the need for them to have some stupid little camp for anyway?
    Theyr trying to organise over here. Ireland dosnt have any nazi party or organizations. They take pictures of the event and use it as propaganda for their mates on stormfront. So they can say "woo hoo look at us" burning some flags and being hardmen.
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    I have never heard of a group called the "Celtic Wolves" before.

    Are they similar or modelled on the Fascist Turkish Grey Wolves by any chance?

    Anyway why did you sound surprised that there were non Irish members of this group?

    You do know that not all Celts are Irish right? :P
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    I didnt write that article. Id imagine that the writer sounded surprised because these nazi's are the very ones who denounce non-Irish people who come to this country. Not just non-whites, but anyone who dosnt meet their "celticness".

    Here are some related links with images...

    http://www.geocities.com/irishafa/Ne...ic_wolves.html

    They had a website but I think its shut down or something....
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    Originally posted by The RedBanner@November 27, 2007 12:50 am
    Why did you put that they were "fucking"?
    Why? whats your fucking problem?

    There's many uses for the word fucking. I couldnt fit in "fucking about".
    I don't have a problem, I wanted to know why you had put that into the title and the best way for me to find out was to, erm, ask you; so that's what I did.

    Thanks for the answer.

    Or would there have been something wrong with that aswell?
    Aswell as what?
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    I don't have a problem, I wanted to know why you had put that into the title and the best way for me to find out was to, erm, ask you; so that's what I did.

    Thanks for the answer.
    Well you can PM cant you? you can use that to ask such questions. It avoids bringing threads off topic.
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    Originally posted by The RedBanner@November 27, 2007 01:37 am
    I don't have a problem, I wanted to know why you had put that into the title and the best way for me to find out was to, erm, ask you; so that's what I did.

    Thanks for the answer.
    Well you can PM cant you? you can use that to ask such questions. It avoids bringing threads off topic.
    How did I know it was off-topic when it's written in the title of the thread? If you want to avoid confusion name your threads properly.
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    I seen the pictures of this on StormFront a few weeks ago. They kept the fact that they were arrested very quiet.

    have never heard of a group called the "Celtic Wolves" before.
    Are they similar or modelled on the Fascist Turkish Grey Wolves by any chance?
    Anyway why did you sound surprised that there were non Irish members of this group?
    You do know that not all Celts are Irish right?
    They're virtually non-existent so it would be unlikely you'd have heard of them. They're so afraid of being infiltrated and smashed that they keep to themselves, do nothing public and as such, don't recruit. I doubt that even their friends know their political loyalties, if they even have any. The last time they tried to hold something public, AFA found out about it and shut it down.

    As for shock as non-Irish members, TRB has explained most of it. There was actually a debate on the Irish section of Stormfront recently about whether Poles should be accepted by National Socialists. The theme of the debate was basically "They're white, but they're Poles, but they're white, but they're Poles, but they're white" and so on. I think there was talk by the Celtic Wolves of inviting Polish and Czech fascists to speak in Ireland and try and win over Eastern European workers. The problem is though, if there is any basis to build a fascist organisation in Ireland (there isn't a basis yet), it would be most likely to be built on anti-Polish, anti-Russian racism.
    There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
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    Sad the thread got derailed over the use of the word 'fucking'.

    But still, great news. Doubt they are going to survive this.
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    if these 'celtic wolves' arent recruiting how the hell do they regard themselves as a prospective political force? I wish other nazis were that paranoid!

    Are these fash really that stupid?
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist@November 27, 2007 07:48 pm
    if these 'celtic wolves' arent recruiting how the hell do they regard themselves as a prospective political force? I wish other nazis were that paranoid!

    Are these fash really that stupid?
    They can't recruit openly because they'd get physically opposed.

    Yes, in most cases, the fash are that stupid.
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    Originally posted by 1968@November 27, 2007 07:55 pm
    Sad the thread got derailed over the use of the word 'fucking'.

    But still, great news. Doubt they are going to survive this.
    It didn't get derailed, I just wanted to understand something about the thread. I'm allowed to do that.
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    Originally posted by Red_Anarchist@November 26, 2007 11:30 pm
    Probably to attract sex-mad people, perhaps? :P


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    Celtic Wolves Court Update


    Jack Cummins (20) of Ballyfaskin, Ballylanders, Limerick appeared before Wicklow District Court today on a charge of distributing threatening and abusive material, namely neo-nazi flags and paraphernalia The charge arose from a “camp out” in the Wicklow mountains of neo-Nazi outfit, Celtic Wolves, in September. The case was deferred from a previous sitting of the District Court two weeks ago, where convictions were secured against three other comrades.

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    Cummins was accompanied in court by his mother and his solicitor. Garda Donal O’Sullivan outlined the events leading to his arrest and submitted in evidence one of the flags seized. The judge, however, declined the offer of a closer inspection of the offending object. During Garda evidence, a female member of the public appearing in a separate case and sitting in the gallery was twice heard to utter audibly the word “scumbag” in reference to Cummins, much to the amusement of this reporter but to the apparent indifference of the judge and Gardai who overheard it!

    After a short hearing, the judge ordered Cummins to pay €500 into the Garda Benevolent Fund.

    Support in court for Cummins from other Wolves was noticeable by its absence, AFA was interested to note. This, despite calls for support in court for the defendants on one far-right message board, and the fact that a co-defendant lives literally yards from the courthouse in Wicklow town. Nice show of solidarity, lads!

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    Originally posted by spartan@November 26, 2007 11:53 pm
    I have never heard of a group called the "Celtic Wolves" before.

    Are they similar or modelled on the Fascist Turkish Grey Wolves by any chance?

    Anyway why did you sound surprised that there were non Irish members of this group?

    You do know that not all Celts are Irish right? :P
    Yes, Poles are actually Celtic...

    Nazis are terribly solidaric with Nazis from other white nations.

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