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    A mandatory University of Delaware program requires residence hall students to acknowledge that "all whites are racist" and offers them "treatment" for any incorrect attitudes regarding class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality they might hold upon entering the school, according to a civil rights group.

    "Somehow, the University of Delaware seems terrifyingly unaware that a state-sponsored institution of higher education in the United States does not have the legal right to engage in a program of systematic thought reform. The First Amendment protects the right to freedom of conscience – the right to keep our innermost thoughts free from governmental intrusion. It also protects the right to be free from compelled speech," said a letter from Samantha Harris, director of legal and public advocacy for The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education to university President Patrick Harker.

    The organization cited excerpts from the university's Office of Residence Life Diversity Education Training documents, including the statement:

    "A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. 'The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination….'"

    The education program also notes that "reverse racism" is "a term created and used by white people to deny their white privilege." And "a non-racist" is called "a non-term," because, the program explains, "The term was created by whites to deny responsibility for systemic racism, to maintain an aura of innocence in the face of racial oppression, and to shift the responsibility for that oppression from whites to people of color (called 'blaming the victim&#39."

    The "education" regarding racism is just one of the subjects that students are required to adopt as part of their University of Delaware experience, too, FIRE noted.

    The "shocking program of ideological reeducation," which the school itself defines as a "treatment" for students' incorrect attitudes and beliefs, is nothing less than "Orwellian," FIRE said.

    The school requires its approximately 7,000 residence hall students "to adopt highly specific university-approved views on issues ranging from politics to race, sexuality, sociology, moral philosophy and environmentalism."

    "FIRE is calling for the total dismantling of the program, which is a flagrant violation of students' rights to freedom of conscience and freedom from compelled speech," the organization said.

    On a foundation blog, a student noted that one residence assistant told students, "Not to scare anyone or anything, but these are MANDATORY!!" And the training program for those who indoctrinate students includes the order: "A researcher must document that the treatment/intervention was faithfully applied (ex: specific lesson plans were delivered to every student, etc.)."

    Further, the school requires "a systemic change" as a result of the program, FIRE noted. As one RA told students: "Like it or not, you all are the future Leaders, and the world is Diverse, so learning to Embrace and Appreciate that diversity is ESSENTIAL."

    "The University of Delaware's residence life education program is a grave intrusion into students' private beliefs," FIRE President Greg Lukianoff said. "The university has decided that it is not enough to expose its students to the values it considers important; instead, it must coerce its students into accepting those values as their own. At a public university like Delaware, this is both unconscionable and unconstitutional."

    According to university materials, RAs are instructed to ask students during one-on-one sessions questions such as: "When did you discover your sexual identity?" "When were you first made aware of your race?" and "Who taught you a lesson in regard to some sort of diversity awarness? What was the lesson?"

    "Students who express discomfort with this type of questioning often meet with disapproval from their RAs, who write reports on these one-on-one sessions and deliver these reports to their superiors. One student identified in a write-up as an RA's 'worst' one-on-one session was a young woman who stated that she was tired of having 'diversity shoved down her throat,'" FIRE said.

    This particular student responded to the question, "When did you discover your sexual identity?" with the terse: "That is none of your damn business," FIRE said.

    Requirements for students include: "Students will recognize that systemic oppression exists in our society," "Students will recognize the benefits of dismantling systems of oppression," and "Students will be able to utilize their knowledge of sustainability to change their daily habits and consumer mentality," FIRE said.

    The foundation said students even are "pressured or even required" to make social statements that meet with the school's approval.

    "The fact that the university views its students as patients in need of treatment for some sort of moral sickness betrays a total lack of respect not only for students' basic rights, but for students themselves," Lukianoff said. "The University of Delaware has both a legal and a moral obligation to immediately dismantle this program, and FIRE will not rest until it has."

    A spokesman for the school, contacted by WND, said he was not ready to make a statement about the situation right away.

    But the foundation's letter to Harker noted, "we have never encountered a more systematic assault upon the individual liberty, dignity, privacy, and autonomy of university students than this program," which "requires students to adopt highly specific university-approved views on issues."

    "Such utter contempt for the autonomy and free agency of others is the hallmark of totalitarianism and has no place in any free society, let alone at a public university in the state of Delaware," the letter said.

    Especially alarming, Harris told WND, is that the school defines learning specifically as "attitudinal or behavioral changes," not acquiring any sort of knowledge and ability.

    Such thinking "represents a distorted idea of 'education' that one would more easily associate with a Soviet prison camp than with an American institution of higher education," FIRE said. "As another example, after an investigation showed that males demonstrated 'a higher degree of resistance to educational efforts,' the Rodney complex chose to hire 'strong male RAs.' Each such RA 'combats male residents' concepts of traditional male identity,' in order to 'ensure the delivery of the curriculum at the same level as in the female floors.' This language is disturbingly reminiscent of a pivotal scene from George Orwell's '1984,' in which the protagonist's captors tell him that 'The Party is not interested in the overt act: the thought is all we care about. We do not merely destroy our enemies, we change them.'"

    No small danger, FIRE noted, is being presented to the university through such apparent constitutional violations. "Simply put, the residence life education program is a legal minefield," the group said.

    One student reacted to the indoctrination with rebellion. On the FIRE blog, he wrote:

    "Take the issue of homosexuality, and the rights that should or should not be associated with it. As a Christian, I believe that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, and is a sin against God. As such, I cannot accept it as a legitimate lifestyle. While I accept homosexuals as people, I do not accept their choice as right, and subsequently I do not think that homosexual couples should be given marital rights. I accept that others do not hold the same views as me. But it is wrong that under the Residence Life curriculum and school mandated curriculum that I should made to feel guilty for my views. … It is not the school's right to try to convince me to embrace the values that Residence Life has chosen. Essentially, if I do not change my views, I will be labeled by my RA as not embracing diversity, and not accepting of certain groups, and thus my RA will try all the harder to change me. This is not the school's job, or right."
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    Personally, I think their definition of a racist is crap. I don't see how the privileged subject of a racist system is automatically racist themselves. The logic doesn't seem to follow at all. It is sort of seems like the same logic as the idea as original sin. Since Adam and Eve sinned that makes their descendants sinners. I could see how one may argue that the privileged subject in a racist system is a racist if they benefit from their privilege without trying to change the system.
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    Your source looks like a right-wing website reporting the opinions of a conservative think tank, so I would take their claims with a giant mountain of salt. I'd like to hear the other side of the story too.
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    All white people are, in fact, racist. As a matter of fact, all people are racist - human psychology has a tendency to stereotype as a sort of mental "shortcut." Being a racist is not "bad" unless you maintain ignorant beliefs in the presence of contradictory evidence.

    The point is that in this society white people are in most positions of power - they control the economy, the government, and the schools. The thing is that most whites believe that they are not racist because they do not actively hate minorities.

    But, for example, studies have shown that employers are far less likely to respond to resumes with names like Tyrone than the same resume with "white" names like John or Richard. This is the more subtle and truly harmful racism that we see after de jure segregation has been dismantled - the racism that people don't consciously engage in but perpetuates oppression regardless.
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    No, not all whites are racists. We don't all have white robes, crosses, and a can of kerosene in our closets.
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    No, not all whites are racists. We don't all have white robes, crosses, and a can of kerosene in our closets.
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    Originally posted by Labor Shall Rule@October 31, 2007 09:16 pm
    No, not all whites are racists. We don't all have white robes, crosses, and a can of kerosene in our closets.
    Nor do most racists. Most racists have a few suit jackets and some spare shoes in their closet.
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    Some People are taking defining racism way way too far, many leftists are guilty of this, taking the idea of racism to cartoonish levels.
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    Saying that people of colour cannot be rascist is rascist in itself, because you are saying they are not human enough to hold what is a human feeling (hatred towards others).

    Saying that all white people are rascist is also rascist, because you are making a huge, abseless generalisation that helps noone.
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    I think Edric O is absolutely right on this topic: this is an article that, more than educating us on this particular story, tells us a whole lot about the conservative (and liberal) approach to race relations. To understand this article and the views that it's attempting to report on, you have to leave the confines of moderate racial theory and understand what exactly institutional racism entails, what propagates it, and what it takes to make progress in a systematically racist world.

    Because when this article lists its definitions of "racist" and "reverse racism", it's spot on. It isn't about insulting people or accusing innocent people of being racists, but rather, as they say in Alcoholics Anonymous, that the first step to solving anything is admitting that we have a problem. In this case, that means acknowledging that racism doesn't just arise and it isn't something that we're isolated from, but to the contrary, that institutional racism is something that is reflected and sustained through racial, educational, and monetary privilege among a vast list of other race-related privileges, through our norms and traditions, through our culture, and through our ideas and actions.

    These are all different areas of human social interaction that we all engage in, and being an anti-racist or even a leftist unfortunately doesn't make one immune from being a part of this tragic and unintended cycle.

    There's a piece from a local Kansas City radical named Joe Miller where he's talking with a young woman about debate norms that I think is really relevent. It's a little out of context, but I think it does a wonderful job in explaining what exactly it means to live in a country where racism is an intrinsic part of our culture, and where racist hierarchy and privilege permeate every facet of our interactions with other people -- and what it takes to change that:

    "I think it's important to understand what I mean by institutional racism. And you need to go with the entire context of my comment. The young woman asked me if she's being racist by participating in so called traditional debate norms. I said yes, and then I quickly followed that up by saying that I am a racist. At which point the black woman beside me nodded her head and said, "I'm racist, too." Obviously we're not talking racism in the white-hoods-and-burning-crosses sense. Jennifer and I were making a point that institutional racism is a pervasive force that continues to keep our society divided and unequal, and that infects all of us on very, very deep levels. It's so pervasive that it infects even black women who teach in the innercity and radical crazy white dudes like me. It plays out in virtually all of interactions. We don't see it, at least not in the way would have had we all been around 60 years ago when a a 14-year-old boy was savagely beaten to death and thrown in a river for whistling at a white woman, and his killers were let go by an all-white jury even though they had an eyewitness who fingered them as the perpetrators. Such overt racism is no longer the norm. Yet the data bears out continual racial division and inequality. And that division and inequality -- this de facto degregation -- is a result of our interactions, our norms. Debate is not immune to this. In fact, it's pretty obvious that it's quite susceptable with even the most casual glance at the demographics.

    So the point we were trying to make is that we're all connected to the way society is made, the way our community is made. We are accountable, utlimately, through the things we do, the norms we uphold, for the way our society/community is. So if our society is racially divided and unequal -- i.e. racist, numerically speaking -- then it floows that our traditions are as well.

    Certainly this is an arguable enthememe, a point for debate (which is, obviously, the point). But it's a valid point, one I don't make alone."
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    I am not racist, all races are equal-- white people, african americans, whatever-- it doesn't make a difference. we are all human -- there is no difference. And I, myself am white. I am not prejudice-- I don't see whites as being "higher" than any other race-- this is a false conception and it is quite idiotic. It is also idiotic to classify racists by such a definition because it is of no value at all-- racists come in all different varieties.
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    People do not understand that there is such a thing as subtle racism that can have drastic effects when it is considered the norm. In this sense, everyone is racist, but we cannot attach value judgments to this. It is a problem that needs to be corrected, not an inherent aspect of the nature of evil people.
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    I don't think it's right to say that all whites are racist; it is true, however, that all whites benefit from racism.

    I am not racist, all races are equal
    They definitely aren't, and that's the problem.

    I am not racist, all races are equal-- white people, african americans, whatever-- it doesn't make a difference. we are all human -- there is no difference.
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    All whites aren't racists in the sense of having bigoted opinions about non-whites but they are almost all* beneficiaries of racially biased social organisation. (This is true of Asians in the US as well, of Chinese in Singapore, Jews regardless of race in Israel, Arabs in the UAR, Japanese in Japan, etc)

    *the exceptions being homeless whites and others well below the standard level of poverty that black and other under privileged ethic groups have.

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    I think the word racist is over-used. Racist should mean one who is actively and conciously discrimanatory. Racism thus does not require racists (as is the case with institutionalized racism). I do agree that all people including all white people exist within a social structure that systemically creates racial bias within thought process, not because the person is a bigot, but simply through living in society. All groups of people are impacted by the coercive ideology of race, not just white people insofar as everybody thinks within these constructs of race set up by society.
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    All whites aren't racists in the sense of having bigoted opinions about non-whites
    I think it is safer to assume that there are more ways in which white Americans are ignorant of the experience of being black than ways in which whites can truly relate. Being oppressed due to your relation to the means of production is entirely different from being oppressed due to your genetic makeup. And the ultimate lesson is that people who wish to be progressive must assume ignorance in themselves, as knowledge is impossible to obtain if we think we have all the answers already.
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    Originally posted by Edric O@October 31, 2007 03:53 pm
    Your source looks like a right-wing website reporting the opinions of a conservative think tank, so I would take their claims with a giant mountain of salt. I'd like to hear the other side of the story too.
    World Net Daily is a conservative news site and publishing house, and it's well known for these Horowitz-style stories. Look at some of the books they've published, including the Savage Nation, which was written by borderline fascist Michael Savage.
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    Racism is simply arbitrary, unreasonable judgement based on ethnicity or "race." Institutionalized racism is described above, and it's highly offensive to me that I am called "racist" for being white. That is doublespeak if I've ever heard it.

    And for that matter, it is NOT true that all people are racist. Racism describes a distinct psychological activity in which xenophobia is applied to ethnic distinctions. I have no doubt that many decent people have latent racism, perhaps a majority of people. But that is neither an inherant human characteristic nor a necessary trend. People respond to their conditions appropriately; in a classless society, racism would be negligibly present at best; the xenophobic concept of downgrading certain groups of humans into a category of subhumans would be logically impossible on any wide scale, so application of such concepts - necessary for racism - would not happen except amongst a few people.
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    They definitely aren't, and that's the problem.
    yes, under the bourgeois state. that doesn't mean they aren't equal to whites, that just means they are regarded that way.

    Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away.
    I'm not-- I never mentioned anything in regards to the problem-- I just simply said that regardless if white people think so or not they are no different from them.

    Of course I acknowledge that there is a great deal of prejudice and racism, especially in regards to the ruling class.

    I don't think it's right to say that all whites are racist; it is true, however, that all whites benefit from racism.
    Yes, the ruling class does-- it's another means of exploitation.
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    well here in Bosnia what i see about racism is that bosnians people looks at gypsies same as americans look at afro-americans
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    I would have to claim that not all whites benefit from racism. Try growing up in a non-white poor neighborhood as the only white kid in that neighborhood. Getting jumped all the time is certainly not beneficial.

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