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    Published October 27, 2007
    [ From Lansing State Journal ]

    Protesters shout down anti-Islam speaker at MSU
    Audience uses chants, obscenities to interrupt British Nationalist's speech

    Brendan Bouffard
    Lansing State Journal


    EAST LANSING - When British Nationalist Nick Griffin took the podium at a Friday night Michigan State University event, he tried to explain how Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

    Protesters wouldn't have it.

    Hurling obscenities and using chants to interrupt his address, rambunctious student organizations forced Griffin to abandon his speech and allow an informal question and answer session.

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    What followed was an unstructured banter between the speaker and a crowd of roughly 75 protesters. While many attempted to ask Griffin legitimate questions, others shouted obscenities.

    "We have all come from different backgrounds," said Authra Khreis, 17, a pre-med student and a protester. "We should accept one another. I don't think he should be allowed to speak. You can use free speech until you hurt another person."

    Griffin was invited to campus by a conservative student organization called Young Americans for Freedom, or YAF.

    Kyle Bristow, chairman of YAF, said his organization invited Griffin to promote intellectual debate. Bristow said he doesn't believe in many of the ideas Griffin has preached, particularly his alleged denial of the Holocaust, but does agree that the Islamic faith is a threat to America.

    "I'll stop saying their religion is terrible when they stop flying planes into buildings," he said.

    "Islam is horrible. The extreme in Christianity is 'love thy neighbor,' with Islam it is violence."

    One student who engaged in a particularly long debate with Griffin was Junaid Mattu, a finance junior from India.

    "I am a supporter of free speech, but at the same time there has to be a benchmark," he said. "Why does MSU time and time again show its insensitivity to minorities by inviting racists?"

    Because several speakers invited to MSU by YAF have sparked controversy, MSU Trustee Faylene Owen is asking the Board of Trustees to take action.

    "I realize that people like this have a right to speak on this campus, but we don't have to condone it," she said at a Friday meeting.

    She called for a board resolution that "expresses our disapproval as a board of the message of hate expressed by this person."

    "He's a hatemonger," she added in a later interview. "He says there's never been a Holocaust and Muslims are terrible people."

    MSU President Lou Anna Simon said that Griffin's views on immigration and multiculturalism were "inconsistent with the values of Michigan State University."

    "YAF has chosen an array of speakers that continue to test the values of the institution, both in terms of being antithetical to our values of being a multicultural, inclusive community and at the same time testing our commitment to free speech," she said.

    "That's a very, very delicate balance."

    But she also said the university allows student groups to invite speakers to campus and, for the time being, that policy would stand.



    http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?A...70332/1001/news

    This is a shitty article and inside the room there where much more than 75 antiracists.


    We broke a ´piiñata with the form of griffin and we had a huge ass banner that said "they shall not pass" in three languages.

    Basically we forced Nick Griffin to not give his speech and instead it turned into a long ass question and answer session.

    Someone turned on the fire alarm and the lights were turned off multiple times lol.

    Also one of the professors almost got into a fight with a bonehead. He is this really well built black socialist. Basically he was trying to ask a question and this motherfucker was interrumpting him with racist remarks. The professor got pretty pissed off and started to tell him SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SIT DOWN LET ME FINBISH MY QUESTION. He started walking in his direction tell him to sit the fuck down and the bonehead still was standing up taunting him. The cops stopped anything from happening though.

    The event wasn't a total success bnecause we didn't really shut him down. However we atleast sabotaged his speech really badly to the extent he didnt really give a speech and started answering questions.

    There where some really angry boneheads who sometimes shouted SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET HIM
    SPEAK.


    Also it was full of smelly crusties lol

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    rofl! Well done. I wish i could see the look on the Grifter's face when he was arguing with that black guy and when he walked off.
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    Upon exiting the building, YAF members were chased by a mob of extremists carrying baseball bats, canes and sticks. The mob shouted “let’s get them” as the YAF members ran towards safety.
    lol!

    why i wasnt there =(
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    Originally posted by Marmot@October 27, 2007 07:17 pm
    Upon exiting the building, YAF members were chased by a mob of extremists carrying baseball bats, canes and sticks. The mob shouted “let’s get them” as the YAF members ran towards safety.
    lol!

    why i wasnt there =(
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    Nice one dude
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    "I'll stop saying their religion is terrible when they stop flying planes into buildings," he said.
    Ignorant? Nah!

    "Islam is horrible. The extreme in Christianity is 'love thy neighbor,' with Islam it is violence."
    I suppose the various crusades, inquisitions, support of undemocratic regimes, etc. were all actually just demonstrations of love? Or perhaps Mr. Bristow is just an idiot?

    Good job on shutting down this asshole though. I would have preferred his head on a pike, but you can't always win.

    Jeez, I'm quite bitter today. :P
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    Well done!
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    Going to translate it to serbian
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    "Islam is horrible. The extreme in Christianity is 'love thy neighbor,' with Islam it is violence."
    Yes, and Hitler (whom was a christian) loved his neighbors so much he invaded them and "took care" of his jewish neighbors. Bah, Christianity has much more blood on it's hands than Islam.
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    Originally posted by MilitantVL@October 28, 2007 08:37 pm
    Yes, and Hitler (whom was a christian) loved his neighbors so much he invaded them and "took care" of his jewish neighbors. Bah, Christianity has much more blood on it's hands than Islam.
    Unfortunately, that's not a very good point. Hitler's actions were not religiously motivated. He was just a racist, nationalist, imperialist bastard.

    If you want to point out the irony in this idiot's statement, look at crimes committed by those who acted in the name of religion or the Church.
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    If you want to point out the irony in this idiot's statement, look at crimes committed by those who acted in the name of religion or the Church.
    The Ustashe for one!
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    That's awesome. He's not safe wherever he goes!
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    Originally posted by Jello+October 29, 2007 12:06 am--> (Jello @ October 29, 2007 12:06 am)
    Originally posted by MilitantVL@October 28, 2007 08:37 pm
    Yes, and Hitler (whom was a christian) loved his neighbors so much he invaded them and "took care" of his jewish neighbors. Bah, Christianity has much more blood on it's hands than Islam.
    Unfortunately, that's not a very good point. Hitler's actions were not religiously motivated. He was just a racist, nationalist, imperialist bastard. [/b]

    Well that's not entirely true, there is a historical debate on the influence of religion on Hitler's motives.
    For instance
    Hitler
    "... I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord's work."
    People think they have taken quite an extraordinarily bold step forward when they have rid themselves of belief in hereditary monarchy and swear by the democratic republic. In reality, however, the state is nothing but a machine for the oppression of one class by another, and indeed in the democratic republic no less than in the monarchy.
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    Originally posted by Comrade J+November 02, 2007 02:36 am--> (Comrade J @ November 02, 2007 02:36 am)
    Originally posted by Jello+October 29, 2007 12:06 am--> (Jello @ October 29, 2007 12:06 am)
    MilitantVL
    @October 28, 2007 08:37 pm
    Yes, and Hitler (whom was a christian) loved his neighbors so much he invaded them and "took care" of his jewish neighbors. Bah, Christianity has much more blood on it's hands than Islam.
    Unfortunately, that's not a very good point. Hitler's actions were not religiously motivated. He was just a racist, nationalist, imperialist bastard. [/b]
    Well that's not entirely true, there is a historical debate on the influence of religion on Hitler's motives.
    For instance
    Hitler
    "... I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord's work."
    [/b]
    Hitler used religious doctrine to propagate his message, I wouldn't argue that religion had an explicit influence on his actions.
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    Labour Shall Rule is right, Hitler was an opportunist and used anything to appeal to a particular audience. He once claimed that he was a factory worker. As history has proven, he never once worked in a factory as he lived off his inheritance until the NSDAP kept him.

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