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    please sign this petition to declare sucide bombing to be a crime against humanity. i urge you to spare a minute of your time to read the petition and then sign it if you wish.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/1234567b/petition.html
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    I'd rather sign a petition declaring zionism a crime against humanity. Suicide bombers are the youth who have lost all hope, they see suicide bombing as the only way to free their homeland.
    There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
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    Bring up a petition making Zionism a crime against humanity, and I might sign them both...
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    If you're going to sign one, you'd have to sign the other also.

    A little of topic but I read a letter in the newspaper saying that Israeli shouldn't be allowed into International competitions because they have no respect and will not listen to any international opinion.
    There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
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    I will sign your petition. Zionism is not a crime, u ppl make me sick. Suicide bombing is not the only solution for these sick ppl. These ppl need help but not at the cost of innocent lives. I will support u and your petition,
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    When you let the Palestinian Authority receive conventional weapons shipments, instead of intercepting them and *****ing and moaning to the world, I'll sign your silly little petition, you Israeli shit.
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    I don't sign racist petitions.

    Hey MITRS, is racism a crime? Yep. Then so is Zionism. I'm not sure you've spent much time reading about the ideology you defend so much.
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    Quote: from CheGuevara on 4:08 am on June 1, 2002
    you Israeli shit.
    how nice... let's be intolerant and prejudice, and then call ourselves socialists. that's fun, isn't it?

    and Zapatas, when i lose hope, i don't kill people. there are other ways, you know... (see OSLO PEACE ACCORDS)
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    See Oslo Peace Accords: The Non Working Version

    The Israelis will never give in to the Palestinians so violence is the only way forward and seeing how the Palestinians haven't the ability to attack military and government instillations, their only targets can be civilian unfortunately. As CheGuevara said when the Palestinians have the fire power to start attacking non-civilian buildings, I'll sign your petition.
    There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
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    Quote: from Blasphemy on 11:55 am on June 1, 2002

    and Zapatas, when i lose hope, i don't kill people.
    You have obviously never truly lost hope and been forced to endure life in real desperation and despair.

    You might not be running out of hope anytime soon, but you will be killing soon right? Aren't you up to be drafted in a few years? True pacifists don't let themselves be drafted. Aren't you a pacifist?

    But if you do allow yourself to be drafted, remember the most important rule when dealing with those pesky Palestinian civilians: Two in the head, you know they're dead.
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    I will not sign the petition. It is a very difficult decision to blow yourself. It is not only fanatics. Although I do not support killing of innocent people, I see suicidal bombings as the only way for Palestinians to fight Zionism AND U$A. We cannot forget that this is not only a conflict between some Israeli and some Palestinians, it is a confrontation of small Palestinian people against big and strong U$A.
    As others proposed, if there is petition against Zionist to sign, then, and only then I would sign.
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    "See Oslo Peace Accords: The Non Working Version"

    not working? peace isn't working for you? oslo was the only time we were actually close to a solution. oslo, if completed, would have created a new reality in israel, a reality of "peace, good neighborhood, brotherhood and understanding". oslo meant peace and justice. and coordinated by the great Yitzhak Rabin, it could have led to prosperity and co-existance. if this isn't good enough for you, then i have no clue what is.


    "You might not be running out of hope anytime soon, but you will be killing soon right? Aren't you up to be drafted in a few years? True pacifists don't let themselves be drafted. Aren't you a pacifist?

    But if you do allow yourself to be drafted, remember the most important rule when dealing with those pesky Palestinian civilians: Two in the head, you know they're dead.
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    as someone who will never have to face the dilema i will have to face, i'd rather if you avoid giving my advice. what do you know about the military and fighting? i'm guessing you know nothing. no one in this board will have to face that dilema, so please don't pretend as if you have any idea.
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    I'm not giving you advice. I am simply pointing out that you claim to be a pacifist, yet you seem to be living in Sartrean bad faith if you think you have no choice in this "dilemma."

    I know plenty about the military, and even more about drafting. My uncle faced draft issues. My uncle gave his tacit consent to Vietnam and went to fight an unjust war, feeling he had "no choice." He came back a vegetable, unable to be around kids (we think he had to kill kids, although he refuses to ever talk about it) or even people for long periods of time for that matter; and he is only slightly coherent when he's not drunk, although his alcoholism is better than the heroin addiction he jumped into upon his return. If he wasn't so psychologically and physically disabled from Vietnam, I think he would try to destroy the U$, or at least it's military, somehow.

    All I am saying is that change does not start with other people, it starts with you. Don't think that you have no choice. And if you feel socially condemned for not wanting to join the military and fight, what does that say to you about your culture?
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    I'm sorry, but I don't SING well...

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    2 things i dont do, sing or dance unless i have to

    Zionism = Fascism

    Also another thing i dont do is stab the oppressed in the back, the oppressed being the palestinian comrades

    I believe it is a great honour that my birthday is on the same day as the start of the latest intifada even if it were an coincidence

    Instead of writing shit petitions, y dont u let the palestian people live, and they wont bomb,Jackass

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    deperate measures, for desperate times....

    both sides are numb to what peace is about. They should be trying to find away to end the conflict.
    But agian....the US is playing "the one side" game. I wonder why...geee...let me think!

    ....self interest...money....political ties...arms...

    I think the whole middle east crisis is BS. War is BS.
    Defense is something totally differant


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    Hey,
    In my opinion the state of Israel should not exist anyway. Imagine if every ethnicity that has been expelled, persecuted and migratory wanted there laND BACK. The gypsies would want india back. the hungarians would want china. Geopolitics would become unworkable.

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    Quote: from Fires of History on 1:02 am on June 2, 2002
    I'm not giving you advice. I am simply pointing out that you claim to be a pacifist, yet you seem to be living in Sartrean bad faith if you think you have no choice in this "dilemma."

    I know plenty about the military, and even more about drafting. My uncle faced draft issues. My uncle gave his tacit consent to Vietnam and went to fight an unjust war, feeling he had "no choice." He came back a vegetable, unable to be around kids (we think he had to kill kids, although he refuses to ever talk about it) or even people for long periods of time for that matter; and he is only slightly coherent when he's not drunk, although his alcoholism is better than the heroin addiction he jumped into upon his return. If he wasn't so psychologically and physically disabled from Vietnam, I think he would try to destroy the U$, or at least it's military, somehow.

    All I am saying is that change does not start with other people, it starts with you. Don't think that you have no choice. And if you feel socially condemned for not wanting to join the military and fight, what does that say to you about your culture?
    the truth is, fires of history, that you know nothing about me. there are so many factors here that you are totally unaware of. you will never have to face this dilemma, so i'll appreciate if you don't mention it.

    and to everyone here - the personal insults are really out of place. i have condemned and denounced violence in any form, whether it is carried out by israel or the palestinians. i have never approved military assaults AND suicide bombing. calling me names is really immature and unfit. please try to avoid it, so we can keep a high level of conversation.
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    It's easy to scream for peace when the way things are currently set up keeps you on a much higher rung in the social and socio-economic hierarchy. So don't make such a big deal about your condemning both sides of the conflict.
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    so what do you want me to do, condone violence?
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