The wanker is coming to Berlin, and there will be massive protests against him and his politics.
More info (in German): http://www.bushinberlin.de
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The wanker is coming to Berlin, and there will be massive protests against him and his politics.
More info (in German): http://www.bushinberlin.de
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Malte,
Let his body be in a state so his children can still see
who the father is.
Cheers
D-Day
What the hell is he doing in Germany? I sure hope he doesnt come to Australia, we have skin cancer because of his oil companies.
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There are riots in Berlin right now:
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Right now? when did you post this? is this big?
I just seen some of the coverage on the news. Looks crazy. They said it was mainly peaceful but that water cannons had to be used to disperse some of it.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
There were clashes between police and black bloc all though the night. Many demonstrators are injured, some of them seriously. The police acted very brutally also against peacefull demonstrators. More than 60 activists had been arrested.
Bush today hold a speech to the German parliament, while doing that MPs of the PDS (reform-communists) enrolled a banner:
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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I've been following this as well, and it is great to hear. There should be riots wherever Shrub goes. It seems the only people smiling and shaking his hand are those on his European leash or benefitting from his policies.
Malte, who in Germany is the most pro-American right now?
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of
I wish some riots would happen like that in Ireland. Oh well, I'll just wait til 2004 when Ireland holds the EU Presidency and then the Heads of State summit will be over here.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
Bush was in Russia yesterday were the protests were pretty poor. But he'll be visiting France and Italia in the next days were are also massive protests awaited. Especially Italia will be big.
FoH, conservatives, social democrats and liberals and even Greens with some expeptions all have pretty much the same ideas of foreign policy, all are very pro-American.
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Thank you Malte
I ask because I have been reading up on German politics, although my efforts have been mostly in vain because virtually every site with good content is in German. Do you know any sites with content also available in English?
I guess by conservatives you mean the CDU?
Sorry for all the novice questions by the way.
Also, do any parties oppose the U$? I assume that most of the parties you mentioned are in favor of a pro-amerikkkan foriegn policy mostly because of trade/economics?
I am glad to see so many parties in the Bundestag, and so many parties in general all over Germany.
Once again, sorry for all the questions. I really need to find a good site to answer them all. Anybody?
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of
Slight off topic i know, so sorry.
When is the UK holding the presidency?
Captain Blackadder: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war two great super-armies developed. Us, the Russians and the French on one side, Germany and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea being that each army would act as the other's deterrent. That way, there could never be a war.
Private Baldrick: Except, this is sort of a war, isn't it?
Captain Blackadder: That's right. There was one tiny flaw in the plan.
Lieutenant George: O, what was that?
Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks.
just read Indymedia.de and I can tell you that the riots wasn't that big, I was blinded by the corporate media. Sorry for that.
FoH, I'll answer your questions later.
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Good idea Malte!!! http://de.indymedia.org/ has English translations through freetranslation.com, and has lots of great further information. I've had several questions answered. I know you're busy, I hesistated asking such novice questions in the first place.
Edit: Although the Indy home page said the protests in Berlin were 70,000 strong, that's great! But then again I am in BC, Canada and 1,000 people is a great turnout here.
(Edited by Fires of History at 5:02 am on May 25, 2002)
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of
lol, 500 is GOOD success here..
Between 2 and 3 thousand was the biggest anti-capitalist protest over here. I'm just waiting till 2004 when Ireland holds the EU Presidency which means the heads of state summit will be held over here. They're expecting 600,000 to turn up for the summit in Seville in June so give or take a bit, there should be about half a million people on the streets of Dublin. And there are only 12,000 people in the Irish police force and 18,000 in the army.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
I think taht europe is begining to open its eyes!!! and thats very good!! see italy and france arent contribuing much to Americas war!!! and Bush is going to italy to make them obey!!!! One thing i tell you if bush dares to put one foot in Portugal I by myself will organise a parade against him it will be govemental blood on the floor!!! and i will be the killer!!!!! :angry:
hasta!!! Hate & ®evolution
ok FoH, finally I'll answer your questions:
yes the conservatives are the CDU (christian democratic party).
Most parties I mentioned are not only pro-american because of ecomomical reasons. You have to look at recent German history, til the German reunion in 1990 Germany wasn't an fully independent state. There were a large amount of foreign troops in Germany. West-Germany had no choice in their pro-american policy. And since the DDR dissolved in 1990 and Germany became a fully independent state the reunified Germany didn't changed their pro-american foreign policy. They still were very uncritical towards the big brother. Germany proabply still is one of the most US friendly nations in Europe, not only the government also the people. Although there came up a bit of an anti-american climate in Germany since Bush is in power.
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Malte how would you rate Schroeder? Apparently he is a socialist (social democrat more precisely), but he shook hands with that pig Bush and I don't think that the only reason is because he (Schroeder) is state chancellor.
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No, Schrder is not a socialist in the true meaning of the word. He is a neo-liberal shithead just like Tony Blair in Britain. He was a Marxist in his early years but this was long time ago. It's funny, there are many former radical leftists in the Schrder government: Fischer (foreign minister) was part of Frankfurt's squatting scene! There are pictures were he is beating up a cop during a demo! And Schilly (minister of the interior) was lawyer of leading RAF terrorists!
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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