Thread: ATTENTION ALL ONTARIO HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS - student walk out

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    if you are fed yp with our new school system, and the manditory community service that is usualy something reserved for jail, than walk out of school at 9:30 am or just dont show up, if you wish you can gather at queens park at noon and show our tories that we dotn liek what they are doing with our education

    "dont waste a good education on a bad school system"....mark twain
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    I'm in BC and out of school, but best of luck Comrades!!!

    Also by Twain, "Never let your schooling interfere with your education."

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    I don't think community service should necessarily be mandatory, but I don't see it as a problem. Community service is a good thing to me.

    What is really wrong with the school system?
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    Community service is cutesy.
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    Quote: from CheGuevara on 6:59 pm on May 13, 2002
    Community service is cutesy.
    Yeah, it is and it's a nice thing to do. Helps the environment y/o the people around you - you know, the poor and disadvantaged. Maybe you don't care about them though.

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    It distracts people from working towards real change. O, if I give these homeless people soup in a soup kitchen, surely they'll be A-OK. If it were offered in conjuction with political education, it would be great. However, as such, it's completely inadequate, although I wouldn't go so far as to say it's counter-productive.

    He escuchado bastante mierda de usted. ¡Chínguese! No es nada sino un pinche democrat.
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    I did a lot of community service in university as part of a scholarship I had (Bonner Scholars).

    And the one thing I will say is that forced service is wrong. If you don't want to do it, you will get nothing out of it. Community service should always be voluntary, and I think that it does nothing for the groups needing help to have high schoolers there that don't want to be.

    Half of community service is cutesy, the other half is great. Really depends on what you're doing.
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    Quote: from CheGuevara on 7:13 pm on May 13, 2002
    He escuchado bastante mierda de usted. ¡Chínguese! No es nada sino un pinche democrat.
    Excuse me? I assume that you're talking about me when you say es.. Pinche democrat? That'll just be disregarded.

    What's your problem? I say community service is a good thing for people to do. Regardless of whether it's done in conjunction with political education. Not everything has to be political. What the hell? I can't pick up trash off of the ground without spewing political talk? I can't volunteer to help inner-city kids without trying to convert them to communism? If I'm doing such work without trying to focus on politics & leftism, my work is futile & inadequate? The streets are still getting cleaned and the kids are still being helped. Fuck you.

    Yeah, Fires, I agree.. I don't think it should be forced because, in that case, it is futile and it doesn't count because the one doing it doesn't care. The purpose is for it to be done by people who have a genuine concern for society and the people around them.
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    When I said political education, I meant for the volunteers, although it wouldn't hurt for the beneficiaries either.
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    its the fact we HAVE to do 40hours to graduate, and we have to write a goddamn litteracy test, i mean no logic to that, id think youd have to be literate to pass grade12 english, but noo we need to do the stupid test to pass. and community service meaning nothing against our beautifle government, its fascist i tell you
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    Quote: from RedRevolutionary87 on 9:18 pm on May 13, 2002
    ...and we have to write a goddamn litteracy test, i mean no logic to that, id think youd have to be literate to pass grade12 english, but noo we need to do the stupid test to pass...
    Well, I don't know how it is in Ontario, but often in the US, teachers pass poor-performing students simply to get them off of their hands. Sad, really.
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    maybe they do hear, but i mean not everyone should have to take the damn thing, if one is struggling in english they should have to take it, but not those who arent
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    I heard about this walkout and I thought it was a stupid idea becasuse it seems to me, or at least its like this at my school, the people who complain are the ones who are too lazy to work. (I'm not juding the people on this site but that is the situation at my school and its a good school) The cirriculum is harder and you have to WORK to get good marks. The new cirricilum is a good thing if you are willing to take advantage of what the schools are offering you. I strongly suggest for those considering to walk out to NOT. The volenteering which is a big complaint of everyone is also a good think becasue these days Universitie and Collges do not look at just marks and people who have done volenteer work have an edge over those who don't have any. The volenteering is there to help us. Also to those walking out i have some questions for you: Do you know every single detail about the new cirricilum? ie When?Why?How? If you don't you are ignorant to the facts and if you do want to walk out you should know the answers to those questions because if you don't you don't have the right to walk out.

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    somehow i doubt you kno all the details either, and the details are simply details, and are not needed, if universities are looking for people with an edge then having EVERYONE HAVE TO do comuminty service seems ilogical, no? we are walking out because the new curiculem represses our creativity, it is not because its harder, it is because the work is pointless, its simply busy work. i can honestly say everything ive learned in the past 3 years was not from school, it was from my own time, this new system is designed to produce mass labour, not thinkers. things such as goal writing? i mean come on people, y should you have to reveal your goals to the ministry of education?the literacy test for grade tens is equaly pointless, most grade tens are literate if they got to grade ten, if they are strugling in english they should have to do extra work, and do the test, but the student majority should not be punished for it. i think you should walk out, it is for your education, if you want to grow up into a drone then stay in your schools on wednesday, but if you want you and your siblings and possibly kids to have abetter education then join us in our strugle!
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    complete fucking disgracefull faliure
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    Yeah, I was just going to ask you about that.. What happened? Why did it fail?

    You got in trubble, didn't you?
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    in our skool you cant skip unless you got balls & know you wont get caught,fucking video cameras & shit too.
    I skip skool alot cuz im sick of my fucking boring english teacher.I cant stay awake in his class,i was snoring the other day for god sake!

    no really ye guys Gotta help me i cant stay awake in his class im only awake on mondays for the poetry thing but after monday im fucked,im always getting kicked out for falling asleep & shit,even though most of the time i can repeat what he just said,when he asks me
    "what did i just say mr.coughlan?".fucking **** is retiring at the end of the year thank god
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    I don't see your problem...I had to the same thing when i was in High School. That is a very socialist idea having community service before graduation.
    You don't get that in the US.
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    there is more too it, they took away a grade, and everything is writing oriented, most of the artistic subjects were destroyed, and those left over had all the art sucked out of them!!
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    I still don't see your point.
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