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    Originally posted by Delirium+October 18, 2007 06:45 pm--> (Delirium @ October 18, 2007 06:45 pm)
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    @October 17, 2007 01:42 pm
    This scumbag is coming in october 26 to speak right in my campus. Please everybody should come to the Michigan State University to oppose this piece of shit and the people bringing him.

    They shall not fucking pass.

    Wow Marmot i diddnt know that you lived in michigan. I've got some comrades up at cmu that would be more that willing to come and shut down the fash.

    The YAF are ridiculous really, the one at central is lead by a selfproclaimed monarchist (i think mostly for attention). He tried to take over the college republicans last year by calling the cops on a party full of the CR toights, but they were all 21 anyways. Anyways send me a pm with details when you have them.

    Diddnt the SPLC name the michigan state yaf specifically a hate group? [/b]

    Yeah, they are ridicolous and the SPC did tag them specifically as a hate group.

    They are always saying "smash left wing scum". I would be very willing to see them actually to try though!

    Also, it would be really cool if your cmu friends would come!

    I don't think we will get to know the lecture hall until like--a day before. They always operate like this because they know people would try to organize against it. We are still however, going to organize before, and we are going to establish meeting points, strategies etc. When the plans kinda become established I'll pm you the details!
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    Originally posted by Red October+October 18, 2007 07:18 pm--> (Red October @ October 18, 2007 07:18 pm)
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    @October 18, 2007 01:46 pm
    It sounds like Nick Griffin almost would be mainstream in the USA.
    I'm sure many here in America would sympathize with the BNP's hatred of immigrants and "sexual deviants". [/b]
    I'm sure that this support from the Republicans would clearly lead to these policies becoming less stigmatised in Britain as well.

    It is quite funny that nazis has begun aligning themselves with hardline zionists. People like Constantin von Hoffmeister for example.
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    Originally posted by Red October@October 18, 2007 05:36 pm
    I don't think they were talking about getting the school to ban them
    Well, that seems to be the demand of the main 'anti-fascist' organisations these days - asking the authorities to restrict the free speech of the far-right. This is certainly the position of UAF in the UK.

    Er, the "No platform for fascism" has its use, it is not just some romantic pandering against the evils of fascism.

    The theory behind it is that fascist efforts to organize should be disrupted the shit out of them. This makes it impossible for them to have cohesive organization and therefore, as BCBM said, "makes the streets safer".
    The 'No Platform For Fascists' stance, as i understand it, appeals to the bourgeois state authorities and other bourgeois institutions (e.g. universities and colleges) to outlaw far-right groups. For example, this is one of the key demands of Unite Against Fascism - the main 'anti-fascist' organisation in Britain.

    My point is that this is counter-productive.
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    This kind of reminds me of how people were refusing to let Ahmadinejad speak at Columbia U for reasons including his opposition to free speech. Go figure, right?
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    Update:

    We don't still know where is the lecture but we will have a rally point in The Rock (If you ever come to MSU just ask where the hell is that) at 6 PM in October 26.
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    What are the gun laws in michigan like?
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    Why would Duke be a friend of the BNP? As far as I'll know, the BNP has uttered support for Israel.
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    But the pathetic 'No Platform For Fascists' lobby would rather appeal to the institutions of bourgeois society to pass banning orders against the far-right. You don't eradicate scum by sweeping it under the rug.
    Are you serious? almost all real left groups use the slogan "no platform for fascists" it means that we do not allow them to spread their hate and try to recruit people.It has nothing to do with asking the bourgeois state to ban far-right groups.
    As far as I'll know, the BNP has uttered support for Israel.
    that would be a shock! although i wouldnt put it past the BNP and their amazing reasoning!

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    Originally posted by Jazzratt+October 17, 2007 02:07 pm--> (Jazzratt @ October 17, 2007 02:07 pm)
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    @October 17, 2007 06:42 pm
    East Lansing, Mich. – Nick Griffin, the chairman of the British Nationalist Party, will give speech at Michigan State University on the issue of how Europe is rapidly becoming Eurabia.
    Holy shit. Can people actually say crap like that with a straight face? [/b]
    What paper was that, the Detroit FreeP?
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    Anarion:
    that would be a shock! although i wouldnt put it past the BNP and their amazing reasoning!
    The BNP has a female Jewish councilour!
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    Originally posted by spartan@October 20, 2007 02:49 pm
    Anarion:
    that would be a shock! although i wouldnt put it past the BNP and their amazing reasoning!
    The BNP has a female Jewish councilour!
    That's not all that odd, since a large amount of Israelis and Jews do harbor resentment for arabs. I'm not trying to stereotype, but a lot of Jews and Israel supporters think that Arabs and Muslims are 'primitive and backward.'
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    Nick Griffen is a scum bag we should smash him and his pals. black n asian comrades rock!!!
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    Originally posted by reddog22@October 20, 2007 09:30 pm
    Nick Griffen is a scum bag we should smash him and his pals. black n asian comrades rock!!!
    fuck off troll.
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    Originally posted by reddog22@October 21, 2007 07:30 am
    Nick Griffen is a scum bag we should smash him and his pals. black n asian comrades rock!!!
    You're the worst troll ever.
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    Originally posted by reddog22@October 20, 2007 09:30 pm
    Nick Griffen is a scum bag we should smash him and his pals. black n asian comrades rock!!!
    Ooh ooh, i wonder if i pull his string will he say another funny phrase!
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    Originally posted by Serpent@October 20, 2007 06:30 pm
    Why would Duke be a friend of the BNP? As far as I'll know, the BNP has uttered support for Israel.
    untrue. It has voiced wolf in sheep's clothing support for the palestinians via their anti-semtic streak.
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+October 21, 2007 07:09 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ October 21, 2007 07:09 pm)
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    @October 20, 2007 09:30 pm
    Nick Griffen is a scum bag we should smash him and his pals. black n asian comrades rock!!!
    Ooh ooh, i wonder if i pull his string will he say another funny phrase! [/b]
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    Originally posted by spartan@October 20, 2007 07:49 pm
    Anarion:
    that would be a shock! although i wouldnt put it past the BNP and their amazing reasoning!
    The BNP has a female Jewish councilour!
    i think they had a lesbian councillor in Burnley before.
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    I guess people are organising something? Good luck you guys and keep us informed.
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    Originally posted by The Anarchist Tension@October 21, 2007 10:58 pm
    I guess people are organising something? Good luck you guys and keep us informed.

    Yeah we are. its coming pretty well actually. A lot of antiracists live around the area.

    Btw to anyone interested that is around the area; we will have a meeting in Monday, 6 PM in the basement of the MSU Union.
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