Holy shit. Can people actually say crap like that with a straight face?
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This scumbag is coming in october 26 to speak right in my campus. Please everybody should come to the Michigan State University to oppose this piece of shit and the people bringing him.
They shall not fucking pass.
Update:
We don't still know where is the lecture but we will have a rally point in The Rock (If you ever come to MSU just ask where the hell is that) at 6 PM in October 26.
I don't still know the place where this asshole is going to speak. I will discuss this with the people I work in here. I will hopefully get you updated.
Formerly dada
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Holy shit. Can people actually say crap like that with a straight face?
Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.
[FONT=Arial]Say what you mean and say it mean...[/FONT]
"Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.
Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
give him hell.
What you hould do is use similar tactics to what people here in Britain do when that freak of nature appears in public, just to make him "feel at home"![]()
Isn't the University of Michigan known for radical student action? If that reputation is true, you should have no problem letting him know how you feel about his "free speech".
its a scary precedence if american 'conservatives' can stand shoulder to shoulder with this fucker. Just goes to show how far to the right america has gone.
You should pie him. And then shut down the meeting. I recommend fireworks, personally.
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
If that reputation is true, you should have no problem taking down his arguments.
This is not UofM, this is michigan statre university, and yes there is a sizeable radical population.
Today I am going to meet up with some comrades, but apparently the event is going to be full of cops who will not hesitate to arrest. When Christian Simcox came, that minuteman scumbag, the crowd became rowdy and there where a few arrests. Lets see what comes out of the discussion.
Fuck cops they make everything more boring.
Formerly dada
[URL="https://gemeinwesen.wordpress.com/"species being[/URL] - A magazine of communist polemic
you have the permission of the uk to take his ass out with a sniper rifle.![]()
Mate, we do what we can to stop him speaking and organising here. But the US isa bit out of our way.
It's really heart warming to know we've got comrades who are willing to help out when things get out of our reach.
Good luck with this!
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
Make him fear the wolves of Isengard! :angry:
"No references to the need to fight terror can be an argument for restricting human rights." Vladimir Putin
"The strengthening of our statehood is, at times, deliberately interpreted as authoritarianism." Vladimir Putin
"We shall fight against them, throw them in prisons and destroy them." Vladimir Putin
It would be nice to see a lively debate, where Nick Griffin's arguments are taken down, refuted and ridiculed. Of course, this is not to say that the debate should be confined safely within the comfortable four walls of a lecture theatre (which is most likely the intention of this 'Young Americans for Freedom'. Set up stalls outside, distribute literature, engage people in debate, prepare for confrontation. The point is to win the argument, thus winning people over to our side.
But the pathetic 'No Platform For Fascists' lobby would rather appeal to the institutions of bourgeois society to pass banning orders against the far-right. You don't eradicate scum by sweeping it under the rug.
Exactly! The most powerful weapon we've got against these bastards is their own vile words, exposed for what they actually mean. Banning them just lets them chuck fuel on the fire for their "freedom of speech" platform, which actually generates a lot of sympathy for them.
Let 'em speak, take 'em down. Easy.
-Alex
The walls pull back, they are transparent and they pull back... love can create this feeling, or art; it is rare to feel it in society, where one is almost always confronted with a kind of obligatory inertia, where the activity one pursues goes almost always hand in hand with the painful feeling of its limitations. But during the strike, we could touch it with our fingers, rub our hands across its back.
Er, the "No platform for fascism" has its use, it is not just some romantic pandering against the evils of fascism.
The theory behind it is that fascist efforts to organize should be disrupted the shit out of them. This makes it impossible for them to have cohesive organization and therefore, as BCBM said, "makes the streets safer".
I don't think normal people, except hardcore liberals, give a shit if Nick Griffin is disrupted or not. Perhaps, because Nick Griffin isn't exactly trying to organize fascists here, the "no platform for fascism" doesn't applies to him. However, if anyone is willing to interrupt/shut down/disrupt the shit out of him I wouldn't care.
I need to be really careful because I am not an american citizen.
Formerly dada
[URL="https://gemeinwesen.wordpress.com/"species being[/URL] - A magazine of communist polemic
Wow Marmot i diddnt know that you lived in michigan. I've got some comrades up at cmu that would be more that willing to come and shut down the fash.
The YAF are ridiculous really, the one at central is lead by a selfproclaimed monarchist (i think mostly for attention). He tried to take over the college republicans last year by calling the cops on a party full of the CR toights, but they were all 21 anyways. Anyways send me a pm with details when you have them.
Diddnt the SPLC name the michigan state yaf specifically a hate group?
I have lived in the monster and I know its entrails; my sling is David's. -Jose Marti
...revolutionaries are anti-civilisation because we are opposed to what class society defines as 'civilized' and desireable; because class society and 'civilization' are two-sides of the same coin. Hierarchal organisation, parliaments, commerce, property rights, the police, law and order, fences, borders, religious institutions, these are the things that define 'civilization.' These are the institutions upon which 'civilized society' and class society are based; and all of these will be destroyed when capitalism, the state --- when bourgeois society is pulled down and trampled on by the exploited and oppressed in the struggle for liberation. - bleeding gums malatesta
It sounds like Nick Griffin almost would be mainstream in the USA.