i heard there would be a protest against war and imperialism i think its in april 20 or 25 ....does anyone knows anything about it.....im going to go there hell yeah
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i heard there would be a protest against war and imperialism i think its in april 20 or 25 ....does anyone knows anything about it.....im going to go there hell yeah
There's an anti-war protest in Washington every day. I've already been to two.
\"He\'s an idiot. But he\'s our idiot.\"
Please don't bring a stalin poster to that protest.
lol
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
Damn it...I was just going to post about it here...guess I got here to late. Its on the twenteeth I wish I could go....but I can't...stupid parents...anyway. I'm in full support of it. Honestly I would preffer peaceful change over revolution(no use and losing comrades in loodshed) which I why I support the Democratic Socialist party @ www.sp-usa.org
just through a plug in there for the site
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
Yeah, trying to build socialism in this country through political parties has really made a lot of achievements over the last 80-100 years. Dumbass.
why, why did I know that as soon as I saw your name where it said last post made by: Che Guevara you would be an asshole about what I said?
What the hell is your problem? I never did a damn thing to you, yet you shoot down everything that I sa, for no good reason. Your not even nice about it. "dumb ass", did you really need to say that? I mean go ahead and disagree with me but stop being such an asshole. I mean for Christ sake why do you have to act like that?
PLease tell me how I offended you. What did I do for you to just start being so God damn hostile?
Do you think a revolution will start in the US anytime soon? Right now getting people to understand socialism and bring about change peacefully is our best hope.
Socialist parties have won elections in states and cities. Its not my fault their hasn't been a presdent thats socialist. At least I'm being optomistic instead of being a whiny assed baby who just sits their complaining and knocking other people's beliefs. If you don't think that political parties have made an difference than go out there and shoot Bush and take over the damn country.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
Also its not that I think Political Parties are the best means possible, I believe they are the best means in this country. If it was small country revolution would be better. but if yo haven't noticed a revolution here would be quickly crushed. I whish there was a revolution but there isn't one.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
Yes, your right, it is important to get people to understand socialism. But change will not come about peacefully, and I'm tired of being on a Che Guevara board flooded with do-nothing peace-lovers. Then there's the other extreme, pre-adolescents who enjoy talking about things they don't understand such as improvised weaponry. You're a very interesting case because you seem to fit into both.
How would a revolution here be quickly crushed? Do you understand or know anything about guerrilla warfare?
(Edited by CheGuevara at 6:39 am on April 5, 2002)
Let's look at what has happened over the past 80-100 years:
- Women can now vote
- Black people can now vote (and sit wherever they want to on the bus)
- Social Security, Welfare, Unemployment, etc. keep many people off of the streets
- Businesses are regulated a lot more
- There are a lot more environmental protections
Is everything perfect? Of course not. Are all improvements the sole results of socialist political parties? No. But I'm glad I'm alive now, and not 80-100 years ago. I can vote, sit at any lunch counter I please, have whatever job I want to and go to whatever school I can get into on academic merit. What's the point of denying that things have improved greatly over the past century?
\"He\'s an idiot. But he\'s our idiot.\"
your a very....how shall I put this....a mix between self rightous and wise.
While I know that talking about improvised weaponry is a bit childish, I don't feel that you should look upon me as a poser. For one thing you've only spoken to me on two threads. So you hardly know anything about me. Though thank you for your somewhat less than constructive criticism.
First of all, I'm not a do nothing peace lover. Had you read my earliest posts you would know that I was extremely peaceful then....now I'm leaning more towards revolution. However I feel that if bloodshed can be avoided it should be. What is the point of killing people and being killed when you don't have to? I'm not saying change will be brought about peacefully. i'm just hoping that it will. If ths country becaomes to out of control with poverty soaring as the rich get richer. I will gladly pick up a gun and fight beside you.
On the matter of the improvised weaponry, the whole super soaker thing was just talk. In a pinch I wouldn't have time to make that, besides it would blow up in my face. I don't claim to know how to make any weapons besides a cocktail. I don't study weapons. Latley all I've been studying is economics and politics. Frankly I would rather have some one else make my guns for me.
As far as guerilla war fare, that is what I plan to study next, I have already started researching it(not because you asked the question, I started yesterday) I don't claim to know as much as you or the majority of people on this site. I hope to one day know as much as you.
I may not know guerilla war fare, but I do know odds. I know that no matter how much heart you have, three guys, two ak-47s and a grenade aren't going to stop a tank. As far as how to attack and then hide before the enemy can attack I don't know. However I do know that it isn't wise to rush into a situation where you are outnumbered or have over or under estimated your enemy.
Personally I don't think a revolution can suceed in the US....yet. The military is far to powerful...atleast since there is no organization with the funds to stop tanks, jets, and rockets. I have no doubt that one day there can be a revolution but us leftist aren't even organized enough as it is. I mean look a me and you, were bickering like old men.
Che, you seem to b a very intellegent person, annd from where I stand you veiw me as another little kid who is just trying to be differnt so he clings to socialism, screaming rebellion this, rebellion that. You don't think I'm committed to my beliefs. Well let me tell you this. I may not know how to rig up a makeshift rocket launcher but I'm not a poser. Che has inspired me just as much as you. I don't just spout what ever I read. I truly believe in socialism, its message is truth t me. So please, please show me a little respect.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
Lets stop the arguing boys.
How about we settle on this:
We need a good percentage of the country educated. After that, if it is impossible to bring socialism (ie: US govt starts undermining our rights and shuts everything down), than we can think guerrilla warfare? faire ênoughè?
I can agree to that.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
I love the condescension, Nateddi. Yes, let's wait until the government clamps down on our rights and makes it even harder to overthrow them. Reacting to the enemy, great strategy. We've been exploited long enough. How about we cut the foreplay and do what we have to do?
Relativism is only worth so much. C+ is much better than a D-, no?
(Edited by CheGuevara at 11:04 pm on April 5, 2002)
IM going to be there at A20, its april 20th,
go to www.a20stopthewar.org or the http://dc.indymedia.org page and in the upper right hand corner it has a thing that sys april 19-22 actions
Stalinsoldiers im going to the 11:00-12:30 IMF/Worldbank protest then marching to meet the a20 peace march at freedom square, then rallyign at 3 in front of the capitol, but i have to leave at 3:00 to get back to pittsburgh cuz my dad needs to be back by 10:00
Im gonna be carryingan all red 1-hand flag, later details on what i,m gonna be wearing so if u spot me u can say hello
