The collapse of CCCP! WHY?

[TITOMAn]

People, I was wondering a lot time, WHY? Well I don´t know if I am correct, but maybe there are some people that will understand what I am talking about.


I don´t want to write a book in here so I will skip some historical moments in Russia.

First Lenin had these 4 rules:

1) Free and democratic elections and the right of recall for all officials.
2) No official to receive a wage higher than a skilled worker.
3) No standing army but the armed people.
4) Gradually, all the tasks of running the state to be carried out in turn by the workers: when everybody is a "bureaucrat" in turn, nobody is a bureaucrat.



1- First thing that (I think), was Lenin´s mistake to give power "only" to Soviets. By that I don´t mean that this is not good, but I mean that becasue of that there was famine in year 1920, becasue all people went to cities. Becasue Soviets were not also farmers, there were no food, becasue a lot farmers came to factories, not only to work, but also to "rule". Soviets were colectives built only with industrial workers (that is what I think).

Then Lenin had NEP, that was when farmers came back to farms, to make more money (they were able to sell things on market).

When Stalin came, all Lenin laws were abolished:

1) Free and democratic elections and the right of recall for all officials. (NO MORE)
2) No official to receive a wage higher than a skilled worker. (NO MORE)
3) No standing army but the armed people. ( NO MORE)
4) Gradually, all the tasks of running the state to be carried out in turn by the workers: when everybody is a "bureaucrat" in turn, nobody is a bureaucrat. (NO MORE)


With stalinism bureaucracy came to power, which has nothing to do with communism, it has more to do with bonapartism.

But even when stalinism was down, there were no big reforms that would bring back Bolshevik laws, but many of them remained. So there were still bosses with red ties which were just bossing workers, what they must do, from times of Stalinism. This bureaucracy did nothing more than had appointments for "Communist Party", and practically, people had nothing from them.......


AND HERE IS THEM MOST IMPORTANT PART:
In "socialist" (they were not really socialistic, because "communists" still exploited working class) counries there was a problem, because there was plenty money, but no products to spend this money. So the situation was reversed from capitalism, (to many products in stores, because of competition (Black Friday)). So people in East bloc had money, but they had no products to buy.

Then organization, called "IMF", said to Eastern bloc that they should allow Western companies to give theme products, so they will get products. But this was one of the biggest mistkes of all time the whole Eastern bloc made. With that people spent their money, but soon home companies begun to collapse, because they haven´t produce more products and there were already ful market with Western products. So inflation begun to rise and rise and BOOM, no more, CPSU fell apart, from 20.000.000 "Communist Party" members there were only 500.000 left in new CPRF ("Communist Party of Russian Federation" ) . And over night, biggest "Communist Party" leaders became millionaries over night, and started to hail capitalism over night, to retain money they have stolen from people.

That is of course my opinion of this whole thing.



HOW WE SHOULD WE RUN CCCP WITHOUT COLLAPSING?

That was even bigger task for me because that is what nowhere writes, noone said thing about this matter (well maybe they did but I haven´t read all available books).

So here is my thinking:

1. Problem which considered, very little products in CCCP, should be easily repaired, but not at the time problem showed up. Working class was under the bureaucracy and did what they said, in hopping, that they are leading him to good place. But it was misery, because "Communist Party" was nothing but neo-Stalinists everywhere, in everysingle company.
At that time "socialist" countries were exporting very large numbers of raw materials to Western countries, just to show their "power" and to get money (you must know that west paid in dollars to CCCP, for rawmaterials) and these so called "communists" were very happy, West thought how powerfull they are to make all these raw, and on the other hand "communits" (neo-stalinists) wanted to make big amount of money, so they had no intentions to make end-products for people, but they were only interested in dollars. So they sold almost every raw-material that was available, so because of that, there were not enough raw- materials to make enough end-products (tools, televisions, fridges,....). To cure this problem, we should organize Soviets that would really exsted (not only on paper). Because if they existed (but they did not), workers would not sell raw-materials to West countries, becasue they would want end-products and also, they would not allow that West companies come to the country, becasue they would knew, that if they come, they are lost.

So we see, that bureaucracy destroyed the whole CCCP, because of two resons:

-They wanted to show West, how powerfull CCCP is and how much more raw-materials they produce against West.

-They had no interest to hold raw-materials in their country, because they knew that West will give them dollars for them. And on the other hand people of East bloc wished products, but they didn´t get them because their government was bureaucratic and lived on peoples account.


And finaly solution is to make Soviets power once again, so workers will have all control. Workers would never sold out themselves, like bureaucrats did, which were only capitalists and exploiters and not true communists, they just soiled the name of communism.

Workers would have never allowed, raw-materials to get out of country and they would have no products.

And we should also widen the Soviets, because we should also give in Soviets farmers, so year 1920 wouldn´t repeat.
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I have myself for true communist, and I know that socialism would work in CCCP, and everywhere if only Soviets (workers and farmers) were on power and not bureaucracy. I also hope that you don´t think that I hate communism, because I love, communism and I live for it, but we mus addmit mistakes done by people that called themselves "communists" but had nothing to do with communism.

Maybe you know all of these, or maybe I am just mistaken, but that is what I think.


COMMUNISM FOREVER, DOWN WITH BUREAUCRACY AND NEO-STALINISTS!


(Edited by TITOMAn at 1:18 am on Mar. 12, 2002)

[MJM]

Good thread comrade this is the kind of thing we all need to consider.
I think the lack of a global revolution was a major problem. The USSR should have just gone crazy getting the world to revolt.
I mean there was world war soon anyway so it's not like any peace would have be lost, and the depression was a perfect time to strike.

[PunkRawker677]

EXCELLENT POST!!! whew.. havent read something that good in quite a while..

[SA160]

Excellent synthesis. Thanks for the info.