ive seen many sites out there with talk for political change and whatnot but have not seen many people who would be willing to actually do anything, everyone seems to want communism but no1 has the guts to put it to practice.
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ive seen many sites out there with talk for political change and whatnot but have not seen many people who would be willing to actually do anything, everyone seems to want communism but no1 has the guts to put it to practice.
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
Ooh, Ooh! I'll help! Give me a little 'mission' or campaign to go on!
- Drake Dracoli
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I want a mission to!!
But seriously, I would fight.
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well, i would love to say yes i would.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION
etc etc
but then i think, "do i mean this"?
and it confuses me, ive never had opportunity to shoot capitalists, but i hope it wont come to that, the only real action has been at protests. I believe one step at a time
plus i have plenty of time
comrade kamo
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
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<span style=\'color:red\'>Proleteriat of the world unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!</span>
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You see the problem is it would take a lot more than guts to put this into practice. It would literally take billions of dollars and a couple million soldiers to even have a prayer. So don't ever confuse not having balls with being realistic . . .
If, for some inconceivable reason, there actually was a revolution, it would depend. Are we talking a bunch of unbalanced fanatics whose background includes Rage Against the Machine liner notes, or are we talking about incredibly well-read scholars who have dedicated their whole lives to fighting the for the people, utterly brilliant left-wing economists, and Dario Fo as Minister of the Arts?
You'll have to be more specific.
\"He\'s an idiot. But he\'s our idiot.\"
i understand this i just mean if that all this was their who would actually fight. i kno revolution is all about timing and i wouldnt dare try to speed up a revolution or force one at a wrong time. but if the time and conditions are right i know i would fight.
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
Give me a kalashnikov and I'll fight.
I\'m ready for whatever they bring. I\'ll go against a tank with a shank for my dreams, and thats my fucking word. - Dead Prez
I would gladly lay my life down if it would in any way help inspire or fuel revolution from the lie known as capitali$m.
Totally!
Trance
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of
Seriously though RedRevolutionary you raise a good point.
Too much of the Left right now is talk, talk, talk.
WE NEED TO FUCKING ACT!!!
Maybe not mobs with guns in a coup d'etat, but the Left needs to just quit talking!!!
I Culture Jam, that's all I can do myself right now...
Trance
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of
I agree with I will deny 100%.
We need educated comrades, and we are a new generation who is becoming so, we cant keep shouting
"Long live the revolution"
"Hasta la vicotia siempre"
if we then go down and watch tv.
I reckon 1/40th of this board have actaully read Das Kapital, if that
and maybe 1/20 read the Communist manifesto
We need Vanguardism to appear, for the good of the rest, then we can truly compete.
comrade kamo
<span style=\'color:red\'>www.marxist.com Committee for a Marxist International</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>Proleteriat of the world unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>HandsOffVenezuela in solidarity with the Venezuelan workers and the Venezuelan Revolution</span>
does anyone know where i can get a copy of the Communist manifesto? and any other communist related books.
I\'m ready for whatever they bring. I\'ll go against a tank with a shank for my dreams, and thats my fucking word. - Dead Prez
By the time you get through Das Kapital, you'll be too old to be a revolutionary! I've talked to a lot of people who have read it front to back and they all say it wasn't worth reading THAT WAY, so I'm satisfying myself by reading bits and pieces here and there.
Who cares if we don't have a prayer(not that I agree that we don't)? The Cuban Revolution only had 80 comrades at the beginning, and that got cut down to 12 after the first "battle." If we die, then someone else picks up the flag. You can kill the revolutionaries, but you can't kill the revolution. You're all too afraid of 'failure.' It would be one thing if the far left had anything to lose by 'failure' in a revolution. However, they've accomplished nothing.
Well-read scholars? Geeze, uh oh. Sorry, not too many revolutionaries aren't going to pop out of Harvard or Yale. Anyone here want an intellectual's "revolution" anyway?
Death, try here...http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/index.htm
if you want a hard copy, you can usually find one at book stores for $1.00-$2.00. I've also picked up copies at used book sales, usually for around $.50-$1.00.
well if you dont have intellectuals u aint gonna get no-where
i plan to take uni at oxford or lse
then i can fuck up the system good and proper
comrade kamo
<span style=\'color:red\'>www.marxist.com Committee for a Marxist International</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>Proleteriat of the world unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>HandsOffVenezuela in solidarity with the Venezuelan workers and the Venezuelan Revolution</span>
well i belive there is a need for intelectuals in a peoples revolution, however i do not agree with an intellectual revolution, since that is a minority revolution where the oprressed will become the oppressor. the most important thing in a communist revolution is that the revolution is in the majority. if the revolution isnt popular then its just a coupe-de-t'ate and you are forcing your ideals on the people you are trying to save.
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
before you put anything "to practice" you have to organize the people, educate them to horrors in an authoritive structure (even including the totaltarianism that happens in a communist structure) and then either prepare for reform or revolution.
workers of the world relax! you have nothing to lose but the bosses that exploit you!\" The unity of the people\'s army will be the weapon of victory.\"
Damn, and just when we were starting to get along . . .First of all, if we fail we'll look like assholes. That's problem #1 amigo, we have to look serious. I think that 12-80 people in a guerrilla war in Cuba is different from 12-80 people in America. If that many leftist militants are killed in a not-so-valiant attempt to be martyrs so that their buddies can reminisce about their "revolutionary" friend, there is something to lose because people will stop taking us seriously. That's why we need someone like Abbie Hoffman, someone to keep us in the news without making us look like fanatics. Many people, including me, believe that violence is a last resort. If it looks like we're at a last resort point, and we lose (12-80 kids versus the biggest superpower in the history of the human race, with an arsenal big enough to blow up the face of the planet as many times as we want to . . . gee) then lots of young kids might be turned away and lots of important leftists will be laughed at and may give up.
I'm not saying to put Harvard professors at the front lines, but if we've got no one with a real background in economics and we're attempting to build the first truly socialist or communist nation in the history of the human race, don't you think that might be a problem? So I'm not talking intellectual revolution. But revolutionaries who establish themselves as 100% anti-intellectual would run a system into the ground.
\"He\'s an idiot. But he\'s our idiot.\"
i do agree with that, we need to wait for the perfect time to strike. i cant stress this enough btu the most important thing in revolution is people, we need much much much more suport
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
well..ireland only has about 5 million people, so i reckon i can take it with a few thousand soldiers and guns...and of course my military genius
2007, outside the GPO, Kalishnikovs and ak47s for all. be there or be shot!
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
- George Bernard Shaw
Lot's of important leftists like who will be laughed at? Sam Webb? There are no important leftists in this country now, with the possible exception of Ralph Nader, and he's not going to last long and he's already laughed at by quite a few people. I'm not suggesting 12-80 revolutionaries can do the job. However, we don't need millions of people. Normally armed people don't have any trouble getting people to take them seriously. Fidel Castro failed badly on his first try around, and did he have any trouble getting people to take him seriously the second time around? We need to face the fact that maybe the 'perfect time' will never come.
(Edited by CheGuevara at 4:12 am on Feb. 24, 2002)
the perfect time is now! we march on the smaller countries and once we kan develope an international commitee we march on washington. its not that hard people. there are already millions of people willing to fight for our cause one just needs to look, north amerika neednt be the first. some good countries for revolution include columbia, india, nigeria, countries with much wealth but poor people. our movement is both educated and populated we now need to arm it and we are all set!
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
