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    The Price System is the system that was 'come up with', and was based, as a plan to organize society to the benefit of what ever power possessing groups wanted to rule.

    Religion was invented by 'what ever' political system, to control and manipulate people into performing and furthering the wishes of the power possessors.

    Religion is a tool to make others jump through imaginary spiritual hoops, and in the process maintain the class/caste system of civil contract society.

    'Political system' invented money and certain 'beliefs', as the carrot and stick, reward and punishment.

    The basis of the Price system, whether its from Babylon, whereas the codified version originated, or from Adam Smith the 18th.cent. economist, is based on scarcity economics and human 'work' in a reward and punishment method.

    Technology has replaced most human labor as the means of doing 'work'.

    The template of our society therefore needs to change, as this operating system no
    longer makes sense, and because money measures nothing real, this method
    destroys the resource base, and hence the very thing that has real 'value'.

    Religion is an elaborate dance done in order to 'trick' people into becoming maintainers of society for an elite.

    'Soldiers' equals religious people, in a sense that the 'values' that keep the cycle turning in what ever system, have to be inculcated, when the information is false.

    That depends on belief, and all religious belief is based on bigotry.
    It has to be. It is based on opinion, and not fact.
    While it is perfectly fine to 'believe' anything, that value should not translate
    to a government. If it does it is not functional governance.

    When two conflicting belief systems clash, people die, they die over abstract concepts that are not real. That keeps the power possessors in business though. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfx7rfr2_52fthx9n
    Technocracy and History. Propaganda/Public Relations/Marketing.

    In a creation epic written in the early second millennium B.C.
    mankind is created this way; “Blood I will mass and cause bones
    to be. I will establish a savage; “man” shall be his name. Verily,
    savage man I will create. He shall be charged with the service of
    the gods that they might be at ease! The ways of the gods I will
    artfully alter. Though alike revered, into two (groups) they shall be
    divided.”
    Mankind was created from the blood of a rebel god that the
    other gods killed to free themselves.

    After Ea had created mankind and imposed upon it the service
    of the gods; these newly created humans said this, “now, O Lord,
    Thou who hast caused our deliverance, what shall be our homage
    to thee?
    Let us build a shrine whose name shall be called ‘Lo, a
    chamber for our nightly rest’; Let us repose in it! Let us build a
    throne, a recess for his abode! “Like that of lofty Babylon, whose
    buildings you have requested they set up in it an abode for Marduk,
    Enlil and Ea.
    These gods said, “Let our sovereignty be surpassing;
    having no rival.
    May we shepherd the black-headed ones, our
    creatures, to the end of days, without forgetting, let them acclaim
    our ways.
    We order the black-headed to revere us. May the subjects
    ever bear in mind their god, and may they at His word pay heed to
    the goddess; may food offerings be borne for their gods and
    goddesses. Without fail let them support their gods! Their lands let
    them improve, build their shrines. Let the black-headed wait on
    their gods.”

    Well, there you have it – the origin of what passes for the most
    part of western religious tradition that originated in Sumeria.

    Earlier in the myth the phrase; “O Lord, spare the life of him who
    trusts thee, but pour out the life of the god who seized evil.”

    This tale from the Old Babylonian period was the most
    significant expression of religious literature of Mesopotamia…

    This is the origin of our so called “conventional approach”
    that has been applied so ruthlessly for such a long time. I wish to
    point out some alternative ways to begin anew.

    Technocracy has that function.

    Just as the leaders of ancient Mesopotamia cleverly tricked
    their followers to obey them as god’s representatives on earth,
    our current leaders employ the same methods. The creation of
    the false religious concepts of Good and Evil was and is the instrument of
    choice then as now, to shame and control.

    So yes, the Price System is the god that says 'every thing for me and nothing for you'
    It is a primitive, antique, and barbaric god.
    It is a hateful and jealous god.
    It is bad poetry.
    It has no conscience in the sense that it will destroy the natural world in a desire to maintain the class/caste system, and as a system ensures destruction of the earth.

    Technocracy is the alternative, and it is the ONLY alternative, that does away with the Price System.
    The outline of the Technate is located in the last two chapters of the Technocracy Study Course. http://www.google.com/base/a/1264040...69411099866373
    Google Base: Technocracy Study Course. original.

    Globalism continues to destroy our resource base using the ideology of the Price System. Creative alternatives are available instead of the current method.
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    It appears that humans love abstract ideas. They are willing to devote significant effort to studying and developing these ideas, and are even willing to die for them.

    My first thought would be to remove religion from politics. As a private belief, without the force of law or conformity, it is much less harmful. Voluntary religious belief is part of an individual's freedom to choose.

    There appear to be two types of scarcity: real and imagined. If humans are predisposed to believing in abstract ideas, then imagined scarcity is easily created.

    Is Peak Oil and its aftermath real or imagined?

    p.s. I am slowly working through the documentation so I cannot comment further on technocratic ideals or on communist ideals. I am at sound-byte comprehension level
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    Yes humans love abstract ideas, and can be manipulated, and indeed it is a science to do so, modern marketing. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfx7rfr2_52fthx9n
    Technocracy and History. Propaganda/Public Relations/Marketing.

    Yes, belief systems there is no accounting for. A good society allows people to believe what ever nonsense they care to. The government would not be run by opinion or belief though, or by special interests of belief or opinion.
    We have that now.

    Peak oil WILL rock our world shortly. It is possible to manufacture oil using thermodepolymerization which converts any carbon material into the very best oil, and also there is an enzymatic process, that makes oil out of carbon based material, but we are in a bind as to the amount to produce to keep the system going.

    We are very vulnerable to collapse because of that, and yes we are going to crash and burn if the oil supply is cut. (mid east war)

    Globalism right now depends on all that oil, and Globalism will collapse without it.

    With our high energy civilization here in North America, and current lack of creativity in general in regard to government, a countdown to chaos has commenced.
    It is thought that Technocracy is the next most probable then. We hope so.
    http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfx7rfr2_96tc8x77
    Technocracy & the information age.

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