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    A group for Australian comrades to be aware of:
    New Right Australia/New Zealand. Nothing but nazi trash under black flags.
    They showed up to the APEC protest and were confronted.
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    Please dont call these fucks comrades.
    It goes one for the student who refuses to submit and two for the teacher who is under-paid as shit, and three for the strikes who give young bloods life and four for the years you spent stifled inside.

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    Originally posted by Organic Revolution@September 08, 2007 05:05 pm
    Please dont call these fucks comrades.
    I didn't?
    I meant that anarchist comrades - real ones - (as well as non-anarchist comrades) should watch out for these fucks.
    Sorry.
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    "(The) working class exists and struggles in all countries, and has the same enemies in all countries – the police, the army, the unions, nationalism, and the fake ‘socialism’ of the bourgeois left. It shows that the conditions for a worldwide revolution are ripening everywhere today. It shows that workers and revolutionaries are not passive spectators of inter-imperialist conflicts: they have a camp to choose, the camp of the proletarian struggle against all the factions of the bourgeoisie and all imperialisms." -ICC, Nation or Class?
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    In England we call National Anarchism "Troy southgate" He got thrown out of the Anarchist Bookfair headfirst a few years ago.

    It's hard to tell if National Anarchism is a front ideology to try and lure anarchos into nationalist politics, or if it is genuine, organic idiocy.

    Either way, I can't see it getting anywhere. They are hated by both Nationalists and Anarchists. We just need to make sure we don't get associated with them.
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    Originally posted by Urban Spirit@September 08, 2007 06:49 pm
    In England we call National Anarchism "Troy southgate" He got thrown out of the Anarchist Bookfair headfirst a few years ago.

    It's hard to tell if National Anarchism is a front ideology to try and lure anarchos into nationalist politics, or if it is genuine, organic idiocy.

    Either way, I can't see it getting anywhere. They are hated by both Nationalists and Anarchists. We just need to make sure we don't get associated with them.
    Yeah, these people are ass kissers of this Troy Southgate guy.
    It's good you guys did some justice to that tosser.
    The anarchists (real ones) did what they could to get rid of these ones at the Anti-APEC rally. Couldn't do much, simply because of the clamping down by the police (if you haven't heard, Australia is looking more and more like a police state), so only chanting and stuff could be done.
    We're watching, though.
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    "As the world of the spectacle extends its reign it approaches the climax of its offensive, provoking new resistances everywhere. These resistances are very little known precisely because the reigning spectacle is designed to present an omnipresent hypnotic image of unanimous submission. But they do exist and are spreading.", The Bad Days Will End.


    "(The) working class exists and struggles in all countries, and has the same enemies in all countries – the police, the army, the unions, nationalism, and the fake ‘socialism’ of the bourgeois left. It shows that the conditions for a worldwide revolution are ripening everywhere today. It shows that workers and revolutionaries are not passive spectators of inter-imperialist conflicts: they have a camp to choose, the camp of the proletarian struggle against all the factions of the bourgeoisie and all imperialisms." -ICC, Nation or Class?
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    The pictures on that blog are great though, six people standing in someone's yard with a banner, yeah, revolution!
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    National-Anarchism.....National-Bolshevism...when will these people learn? Well, at least we can laugh. All 10 of these guys will overthrow the government! Canberra, look out!

    Though I am also anti-globalistation, these guys are fools.
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    I was there with the Socialist party and saw them too!

    We automatically got talking about who they were and where they were from, becuase, they had about $4000 worth of banners (estimated off the cost our our own similar sort of banner) and they were all wearing brand new shiny black boots! Not cheap at all! So they have some major financial backing from someone. We thought some of them might of been police provacteurs or have had some kind of high level government or corporate sponsoring. Also discussed was the possibility of American Fash sponsorship.

    We got a few copies of their brocheur, and those fuckers had the audacity to use IWW cartoons including the wildcat strike symbols. They also used a statment from the Zappatista's that was taken out of context, and two picture of Marcos, one where he was waving to the people in a way that these fuckers were able to stretch it so he looked like he was giving the Sig Heil salute.

    Another thing I forgot to mention is that their brocheurs where just that, expensive, glossy nicely folded brocheurs, not printed and photocopies paper like everyone else.

    Very suspicious.

    Word is alot were up from Melbourne, so the Melbourne reds and (real) blacks will be watching...
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    I don't think people should worry too much about these anarchist wannabes - next time they show-up there won't be enough of their friends in blue to look out for them! :banner:
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    we have got to watch out though as groups like the national anarchists and national bolsheviks are successfully bridging the gap between nationalism and anti capitalism which confuses many young anti capitalists. thus they can attract quite a bit of support unless of course we strangle this movement in its cradle.
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    This group was just launched the other week, they have a website and web forum and what not. Its probably not a coincidence that this group was launched not long after another australian neo nazi group called australia first started expelling its prominent members including the leader Jim Saleam (yes thats right the leader of a white supremicist group has an arabic surname ) Whats even funnier is that the president of Australia first Diana Teasdale admitted to having jewish heritage recentley.


    The new right and are lead by a guy called welf Herfurth who is a german business who was involved with the NPD in germany that immigrated to australia, he was involved with organising the "Sydney Forum" which is a sort of nationalist/facist forum that happens once every year in sydney www.sydneyforum.net in conjunction with Jim Saleam.

    If you want more info on Welf have a look at: http://www.fightdemback.org/archive/...herfurth-welf/
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    There web forum is at: http://newrightausnz.org/forum/

    I doubt these guys pose any threat, just like all the wacko right wing groups in australia there just a group of paranoid bogans, only difference this time is that they have shiny new boots. There most probably the same group of guys who did that protest against David Hicks father in sydney earlier this year. http://www.revleft.com/index.php?sho...66445&hl=hicks

    For anyone that saw these nutzi's at the apec protest, how many of them where there? On stormfront someone said 30-40 but you usually have to divide by 10 whatever bullshit figures the morons on scumfront claim.
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    Around 15 or so.
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    Originally posted by ghostofeureka@September 09, 2007 02:34 pm
    One of the guys who was there is called Scott Henley and he's from melbourne. He's only like 16 or so and goes by the username nocrusties on stormfront.
    Always good to get a name attached to a scumbag fash.

    These guys most likely have backing, as mentioned before, because their set up and their resources (the speed of it alone) is a bit much for just a backyard nazi group.

    Their anarchist idealogy is most likely a trick to get more members onto their side, we all know how the nationalists play these 'snag em while they're angsty' games.

    I'd say keep an eye on them. I mean a rich ex NPD business man, a group of impressionable nationalist kids... sounds like some molestation is going to take place.
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    National Anarchist
    Talk about an oxymoron.
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    Originally posted by SpikeyRed@September 09, 2007 01:08 pm
    I was there with the Socialist party and saw them too!

    We automatically got talking about who they were and where they were from, becuase, they had about $4000 worth of banners (estimated off the cost our our own similar sort of banner) and they were all wearing brand new shiny black boots! Not cheap at all! So they have some major financial backing from someone. We thought some of them might of been police provacteurs or have had some kind of high level government or corporate sponsoring. Also discussed was the possibility of American Fash sponsorship.

    Maybe they just have rich parents?
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    Nah, they're backed by this ****:



    Welf Herfurth, a sydney-based german migrant ex-NPD.
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    Everyone was saying the dart-thrower was part of this group (or a cop). I saw him at the start and the scene with the mafia guy in the white suit from the simpsons came to mind "He's going to do something and you know it's going to be good."

    Anyway, he did have a eureka flag on his helmet, which I'm usually wary of. It was sad to see people walk past the anarchist bloc and say "we're in the far-right area lets leave".
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    Originally posted by ghostofeureka@September 10, 2007 12:34 am
    One of the guys who was there is called Scott Harrison and he's from melbourne. He's only like 16 or so and goes by the username nocrusties on stormfront.
    I know that motherfucker.
    I've heard about him.
    He attacked a mate of mine down in Melbourne one time. He lost though.
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