National "Anarchist" group declared

[Black Dagger]

Well it says 'hundreds'; so that would include oz coz 200+ years can be considered 'hundreds.' But yeah, their use of indigenous to describe the descendants of colonial europeans is a (deliberate) slap in the face two the Indigenous peoples of Australia.

[ghostofeureka]

You know, somethings a bit strange about this manifesto. I don't think it was actually written by these cretins.
Take this, for example:

It looks like it was an document written for german new right or something similiar and then adapted to australia in some parts, ie they mention the bnp and pauline hanson. The whole things really dumb and stupid though if you have any understanding of anarchism.

Seems to me like 1. a pretty desperate attempt to make left wing ideals more palatable for bone heads and 2. Enticing people who are less educated about leftist principles from the left to neo-nazim/facism.

Considering the consistent failures the far right have had in australia, they must be pretty desperate if this is what there resorting to. For example look at the list of failed attempts by the right to get anything going in austalia: patriotic youth league, bikini march and most recentley the abandoning of Australia first plus many more.

The closest thing the far right have had to a success in australia from their perspective was Cronulla which they had nothing to do with organising and which they failed to capatalise on anyway.

[Bilan]

Seems to me like 1. a pretty desperate attempt to make left wing ideals more palatable for bone heads and 2. Enticing people who are less educated about leftist principles from the left to neo-nazim/facism.

This is absoltuley spot on (except the spelling).
They have an article on how they're trying to infiltrate and sabotage the leftist movement, by attracting young people to Nationalism and far right politics.

[Cybercide]

Originally posted by SpikeyRed@September 09, 2007 01:08 pm
I was there with the Socialist party and saw them too!

We automatically got talking about who they were and where they were from, becuase, they had about $4000 worth of banners (estimated off the cost our our own similar sort of banner) and they were all wearing brand new shiny black boots! Not cheap at all! So they have some major financial backing from someone. We thought some of them might of been police provacteurs or have had some kind of high level government or corporate sponsoring. Also discussed was the possibility of American Fash sponsorship.

We got a few copies of their brocheur, and those fuckers had the audacity to use IWW cartoons including the wildcat strike symbols. They also used a statment from the Zappatista's that was taken out of context, and two picture of Marcos, one where he was waving to the people in a way that these fuckers were able to stretch it so he looked like he was giving the Sig Heil salute.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that their brocheurs where just that, expensive, glossy nicely folded brocheurs, not printed and photocopies paper like everyone else.

Very suspicious.

Word is alot were up from Melbourne, so the Melbourne reds and (real) blacks will be watching...

Aust has a socialist party? could you give me any info?

[Bilan]

Socialist Party (of) Australia

[Palmares]

I would say at least for the time being these guys dont really mean much.

In some parts of Europe they seem to be a bit more problematic. That of course is, as previously noted, because of their aesthetic (and to some degree, the impression they try to convey via literature - though still reliant on imagery - like the zapatista example).

They are co-opting the black bloc aesthetic.

In places like Germany for example, the attempt to be confused with anarchists (minus the nationalism&#33 can be extremer, as they dont always have ideology so clearly marked on banners.

Considering though, that black blocs dont really exist in Australia, makes this not so much a problem.

Im sure reading further from German comrades for example would shine some light on the situation.

[Bilan]

Originally posted by Cthethar
Considering though, that black blocs dont really exist in Australia, makes this not so much a problem.

I agree, but also, Black Bloc's have an international reputation for being an anarchist tactic and method of organizing.

But also, though they're using black flags, and black red stars (dem motherfuckers&#33 [but they have that third-positionist logo on them (the stars that is)].

Not only that, but by them doing this, it makes it more difficult for us to be able to use these tactics without being confused with them - though, not that difficult.

[Jazzratt]

History repeats itself.

[Bilan]

Just a heads up that these fucks have been browsing this.
Be warned.