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I would like to announce to you all that after some thought I have decided to convert to Fundamentalist Christianity. This is a long and tedious process I feel. I was raised in an Evangelical but non-Fundamentalist church. Politically and sociallly my family was long moderate, including on religious issues, not liberal but not as conservative as most members of my church, who are often neo-con Religious Right types. I do not consider the Religious Right to be fundamentalist Christianity but a religious arm for neoconservatism. Anyway, as I got older I began to explore different ideals than what my moderately conservative church and my moderate family taught. I became extremely liberal for a time before discovering libertarianism. I arrived at revleft in exploration of ideals of individualist anarchism but I did not find many people here that agreed. Then only a little while ago I heard radical Islamists talking on TV and I realized that even though they are wrong on many issues they get it right that devotion to God (which I never rejected at any point) involves more than being semi-religious as many people are, like American "Christians" out there. I have read the ideas of Christian Reconstructionism and I realize that the goal of all Christians must be to establish God's Kingdom on the whole world so that Jesus Christ can return and rule over the whole world. Here is an overview of how I see this tying with politics and my political-religious views.
RELIGION
- I am a postmillenialist who rejects the premillenialists (most Evangelicals like Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell) view of immanent tribulation and the foolish idea of the rapture.
- I am a Biblical literalist except in areas where it can be determined to be allegorical, explained for that time etc., such as with the Genesis account of Creation. On the other hand I do not believe the Bible is the revealed and final idea. There are examples of Biblical heroes doing wrong things and there many things not in the Bible that can be counted as part of the historical narrative. So I am not a member of those who say the King James Bible is the final source.
- As for religiousity I do not consider myself as of one strand. I am largely influenced by Protestantism but I admire traditionalist Catholicism. I am not a Orthodox Jew or Muslim but I admire those religions. I also admire aspects of others. Despite being a Christian I believe unlike other Fundamentalists that a good non-Christian person can become accepted by God by being a "law unto themself" to God. So that means I do not believe that only Christians go to Heaven and all others go to Hell, in fact false Christians go to Hell. My view of the afterlife is the traditional Jewish view that Hell is not eternal and is a place where people go to be purified. The saints await the ressurection at the Bosom of Abraham in comfort, the semi-good sit in a sort of place in limbo, the wicked are purified out in hell before joining the semi-good, and the truly wicked and servants of Satan are anihilated. So thus nowhere is lack of faith a sin.
- On personal matters I disagree with fundamentalists who add to the Bible. I see nothing wrong with alcohol, dancing, tobacco, rock and role, and even use of marijuana if it is done responsibly. I oppose homesexual experimentation but recognize there are many natural homosexuals who should be treated for this mental problem. Sodomy is when a person who is not naturally homosexual engages in homosexual acts. There is nothing wrong with sex and marriage begins not with a ceremony, but when two people have sex. So whoever you have sex with first is your wife. I think polygomy is okay as long as not done but church leaders or on the level of being a harem. I am still ultra-conservative though.
- In politics this translates to Christian libertarianism. Christian libertarianism is expressed here by Andrew Sandlin, who is a Reformed Christian. I am not a particularly Calvinist so excuse that. The political view is much the same.
http://www.natreformassn.org/statesman/96/clIdea.html
So these are my basic ideas. You guys have a good sense of radicalism and justice and would be perfect Christian footsoldiers if you converted from infidelism, but my goal is not to proslytize, but to debate.
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Amen to that. I know I am right and you will eventually be living under Christendom.
I thought you were here to debate and not preach? Also, arent we in the West living in Christendom now, or do you mean some ultra-religious, ultra-conservative "utopia" (more like dystopia)?
Communism is your only path towards salvation, reject all false prophets!!11oneone
Seriously though, really sad to hear this, give studying revolutionary theory and practice a little more? Why does it have to rely on purely individualism, why not acknowledge that there is a dualism between the individual and the whole aspect of society you interact with?
Edit: What do you think of leftist theory now?
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Wow thats not even funny. Its just sick the amount of Christians who do loads of hating.
I'm just glad its a dying religion.
What do I think of leftist theory now? I think that it promotes a vision of justice that I do not like but at least it promotes a vision of justice. I admire your fortitude in leftism and Lenin had the right organizing ideas. And the corporatist system is an evil one.
That is so sad. I hope you see the light of rationality one day.
And when Marx says, 'Hitherto the philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways', what that 'hitherto' means is not a renunciation of theory and that all we need to do is wade in with our fists and there will be no more need for thought. This idea is in fact fascist, and it would be grossly unjust to Marx to impute such views on him.
--Theodor Adorno, 'On Theory and Practice'
RACIST!
Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.
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"Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.
Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
unlike some here im not going to judge you for the decision you made. all im going to say is good luck and live your life they way you choose.
"No references to the need to fight terror can be an argument for restricting human rights." Vladimir Putin
"The strengthening of our statehood is, at times, deliberately interpreted as authoritarianism." Vladimir Putin
"We shall fight against them, throw them in prisons and destroy them." Vladimir Putin
Why?
perhaps, for you, it translates to libertarianism. However, the bible teaches religious war, bigotry, etc. which you also preach here. You cannot take the bible literally and also say that you are libertarian in any sense; you are already worshipping an idol, a form of authoritarianism.
As for converting to a Christian footsoldier, no thank you. I prefer my humanism. Perhaps if you believed more fluidly and realistically in Christ you would agree.
Christian Humanism as thought up by Desidarius Erasmus was a good idea.
Fuck you. Check DSM-IV, homosexuality was removed from it in 1974. It isn't a "mental problem" like your pathetic book may teach you, it's a biological characteristic found in a large portion of human beings.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
Fuck Off; you make me sick.
We bow to no-one, especially not to any imaginary crap.
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
You rock bro.
I doubt he will get it though.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein
You left out that it basically calls for a genocide of the Jews as well.
A fundamentalist Libertarian? Talk about an oxymoron, do you relies that what your basically advocating is the creation of a global totalitarian absolute monarchy in which no one has a say in anything? And that just before it is established everyone must ether convert or die, and calls for what basically amounts to a genocide of the Jews? This is basically what you advocate by being a fundamentalist, and you call yourself a Libertarian? This has got to be some sort of sad joke.
Mental problem? You do relies that homosexuality exists in and is just as prevalent in many other animals besides humans don't you? It's completely natural and hardly a "mental problem".
The amount of poverty and suffering required for the emergence of a Rockefeller, and the amount of depravity that the accumulation of a fortune of such magnitude entails, are left out of the picture, and it is not always possible to make the people in general see this. - Ernesto Che Guevara
Fate is simply a future that you didn't try to change.
He's a fundamentalist! It's all about the word, not about where the ideas come from, what it will cause. It's all about the fundamental understanding of the "Word" of "God".
“Where the worker is regulated bureaucratically from childhood onwards, where he believes in authority, in those set over him, the main thing is to teach him to walk by himself.” - Marx
"It is illogical and incorrect to reduce everything to the economic [socialist] revolution, for the question is: how to eliminate [political] oppression? It cannot be eliminated without an economic revolution... But to limit ourselves to this is to lapse into absurd and wretched ... Economism." - Lenin
"[During a revolution, bourgeois democratic] demands [of the working class] ... push so hard on the outer limits of capital's rule that they appear likewise as forms of transition to a proletarian dictatorship." - Luxemburg
“Well, then go forward, Tower of Bebel! [August] Bebel is one of the most brilliant representatives of scientific international socialism. His writings, speeches and works make up a great tower, a strong arsenal, from which the working class should take their weapons. We cannot recommend it enough… And if the [International] deserves to be named Tower of Bebel... well, then we are lucky to have such a Tower of Bebel with us.” - Vooruit
A Christian Libertarian? So you support free-markets and christian morality for social issues... So your a Conservative in denial?
Too many crimes to mention. It doesn't call, per se, but claims that God will off a third of the Jews. Some purpose for the chosen.
Homosexuality can be a result of a mental deformity, but there are certainly biological imparatives which make it a natural choice, and of course there's nothing wrong with homosexual acts. The fundamentalist christians like to take the fact of gay sex as a result of mental disorders as meaning that all gay sex stems from this, and that it is wrong because it's a mental disorder. Of course, that's untrue, but I figured the underlying ideas behind such a twisted belief should be uncovered.
