Nazis in Australia

[AnarchJim]

Dear fellow Australians.

I knew NeoNazis were in Australia, I knew I would find them one day, I thought I would be able to stand up against them, but on that last one I was wrong.

Recently I have bumped into a number of fascists down at Dimond Creek, VIC and as I stood alone and luckily not wearing my 'Nazi Punk's Fuck Off - Dead Kennedys' T-shirt or any other anti-fascist clothing. I actually spoke to them and they tried to recruit me and as it was me with about five of them around me I desided it best to keep it to myself that I hate their beliefs.

So as I now know there are fascists in Dimond Creek, I was wondering where else they are known to be (not that I am going to go start some fights or that I am going to avoid those areas, but so I don't get surprised again by a whole bunch of Nazis telling me that I should join them for a party with more fascists [obviously I did not attend, using some pitiful excuse])?

Also if their are any Antifa who would be willing to get incontact with me (not nessacarily dirrectly but so I can be informed about up coming rallys and shit) could they please send me a message to inisiate communication.

Cheers.

[Palmares]

I think this is a good starting point.

So I look up where the fuck the place you mentioned is - the very outskirts of Melbourne. I guess I heard that the nazis were driven out of the city into the burbs long ago. I think they are maybe slightly on the rise again since being smashed back in the day.

I've even heard of boneheads in Fairfield. Then there was/is the Skrewdriver singers (i forget his name at the minute) memorial gigs, the last at the Birmie in Fitzroy...

But yeah, not alot of nazis. Not as active as like in Romper Stomper. And certainly not as many as in Europe, and hell, perhaps not even as organised as the ones in NZ.

I think perhaps nazis are somewhat ignored in Australian activism these days though. I hope this doesnt create a mad situation. But theres still people who do stuff, and I guess the link I gave can help you figure out more.

I cant help though, I not in Australia at the moment. But with the experience of nazis here in Europe, perhaps I'll be able to think about how to deal with them in Australia upon my return.

[AnarchJim]

Cheers mate, as I said I don't want to be put in the situation were I'm alone with a whole bunch of them again cause it made me sick to try to pretend I was comfortable and on their side.

[An archist]

From my experiences, nazis will not attack in broad daylight, I got approached by two of em once because of my antifa patches, kindly told em to fuck off and continued my way.

[Bilan]

I've met a couple of fascists up here. I was friends with one before he turned.
We saw a couple of them at a RTS protest a while back. I remember it very clearly.
Infact, I saw the motherfuckers the other day.
But anyway, last Antifa action I went too there was like 7 of us there. Not huge.
There's the potential for it to be bigger, but there's been some major issues with activism in Australia - basically, the main thing being that it's way to activist exclusive

As for antifa in Melbourne...not so sure.
There's anarchists. Maybe you should get in contact with them.

[Palmares]

Originally posted by An archist@July 29, 2007 07:42 pm
From my experiences, nazis will not attack in broad daylight, I got approached by two of em once because of my antifa patches, kindly told em to fuck off and continued my way.

Classic.

But yeah, we're too complacent about nazis. Given the racist nature of this country, the potential for the nazis is big - look at Cronulla...

[SpikeyRed]

Fascists in Diamond Creek you say? Wouldn't surprise me actually.

Jim A Space Outside is where you can find some Melbourne Anarchists, and they are active.

Were they actually trying to recruit you to some kind of party? Or were they just trying to propaganda you?

Cthenthar your right, Over the past year and half I've noticed a huge rise in this fucked up Jingoistic Nationalism among alot of youth, from 15 years to 26\27. It's fashionable too loudly proclaim "Aussie Pride", flash the flag around and that sort of thing, and of course, we know this kind of thinking is quite dangerous. I encounter it at school alot, an "Us" and "Them" mentality, where being "Aussie" means being white as an unspoken assumption.
My school actually banned the flag from our Athletics day, which was shortly after the Big Day Out controversy, and this sparked a bit of anger among students.

Needs more internationalism!

FIGHT THE FASCIST SCUM!

[AnarchJim]

Thanks for the Link Spikey.

Were they actually trying to recruit you to some kind of party? Or were they just trying to propaganda you?

Requriting me. They did know I was into Punk Rock (not nessacarily and Anarchist though I am but they didn't know that, I hope, for the moment at least) and the guy I knew there before this time told me of how he used to be a punk them he went to "Nazi Punk" as he said, he then went on to tell me that I should get into it and come out with them, acting all casual of course.

Well the party was a party with other trash heads from the area and other scummy parts round there, and alot of them were fascists from what i could gather since they all seemed to be familure with them and spoke of things they have done like bashing people (which was quite hard as i was about to punch him in the face and say proudly "ERASE RACISM" but knew that I would soon be face down on the train tracks).

Propaganda, I doubt it, mainly they just wanted me on their side as I am tall and call quite a large number of people i come incontact with to hide in fear when I get annoyed and stand over them.

I actually chased the guy down a while ago and got him to the ground ready to bash him when one of both of our mates through me off and started laying into me before my mates got there and pulled him off and the fash had run off.

Actually Spike this was the day before I met you down at the train station, and I was glad I didn't bump into him that day, you saw I had my Nazi Punks Fuck Off T-Shirt on that day, but Nazi sign on front with a nice big no smoking style slash over it, but that day I was with friends most of the day so I knew I wouldn't be caught by myself.

[AnarchJim]

Hmmn, you've already sent me here SpikeRed but thanks again, I never got the chance to go over it fully as you gave me alot of stuff at the time and I had alot else to do aswell.

Cheers

[ghostofeureka]

It might be of some interest to you guys that some facists on the stormfront forum are trying to organise a rally in sydney next year which they're either going to hold in cronulla or hyde park.

hxxp://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/location-sydney-rally-398981.html
hxxp://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/location-sydney-rally-update-407654.html

[Bilan]

Originally posted by ghostofeureka@August 03, 2007 06:57 pm
It might be of some interest to you guys that some facists on the stormfront forum are trying to organise a rally in sydney next year which they're either going to hold in cronulla or hyde park.

hxxp://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/location-sydney-rally-398981.html
hxxp://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/location-sydney-rally-update-407654.html

It'll probably collapse.
Just like their protest against David Hick's father speaking out against the war. They managed to get three people there, and for some reason, they had a Eureka stockade flag (what the hell?).

but best keep your ears up, just see what happens.

[Dr Mindbender]

learn a martial art in case they try to accost you next time.

[Black Dagger]

If yall wanna learn about the white nationalist movement in oz, what's goin on, some of the personalities, groups involved etc. id suggest reading @ndy's blog: http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/

@ndy is more clued about boneheads and their ilk than anyone i know in oz, and he's always updating - just a great resource, check it out!

[Palmares]

Originally posted by SpikeyRed@July 30, 2007 04:02 pm
Jim A Space Outside is where you can find some Melbourne Anarchists, and they are active.

That was a collective created simply for the g20 summit protests. And Im not so sure they would call themselves anarchists, though definitely not socialists, but perhaps autonomists (some of them use that term anyway).

And the link didnt work for me, so perhaps that realtes to my point.

Barricade Books and the Melbourne Anarchist Club are better places to hook up with Melbourne anarchists.

[Cybercide]

Originally posted by bleeding gums malatesta@August 03, 2007 01:14 pm
If yall wanna learn about the white nationalist movement in oz, what's goin on, some of the personalities, groups involved etc. id suggest reading @ndy's blog: http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/

@ndy is more clued about boneheads and their ilk than anyone i know in oz, and he's always updating - just a great resource, check it out!

good link. so is there any anti-fa's in Aust?

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by Cybercide+August 08, 2007 11:59 pm--> (Cybercide @ August 08, 2007 11:59 pm)

bleeding gums malatesta

@August 03, 2007 01:14 pm
If yall wanna learn about the white nationalist movement in oz, what's goin on, some of the personalities, groups involved etc. id suggest reading @ndy's blog: http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/

@ndy is more clued about boneheads and their ilk than anyone i know in oz, and he's always updating - just a great resource, check it out!

good link. so is there any anti-fa's in Aust? [/b]

Fight Dem Back are the one that comes to mind.

[Black Dagger]

Yup, it's just with a small, disorganised and self-destructive movement of fascists/white nationalists there's hardly any dedicated antifa around... cept when the white nationalists have their annual talk-shop the 'sydney forum'.

A good starting point for organised antifa in oz is:

http://fightdemback.org/

[guerilla E]

The Nazis in Melbourne got driven out a little way back, I haven't been in Melbourne since December 07 so I don't know how much has changed.

They used to have a bookstore near Sydney Rd, but that front has been quiet and the skins haven't been sighted there (to the best of my knowledge) for a while.

However before I left there were confirmed attacks and sightings inside the CBD after dark, the fascists are out there but they're all vampires. They're definetly not as 'out of the closet' as the ones in Europe, so there's a good chance your run ins will be kept uncommon if not rare.

First post. Yeay.

[Palmares]

They used to have a bookstore near Sydney Rd

Huh? Are you mistakenly referring to the anarchist bookshop that used to be there? The nazis did attack that bookshop sometime ago.

[guerilla E]

nah mate, ages ago there was a NF (i think) bookstore there, built like a little library bunker. Nazis used that place to walk up and down near the train station to hassle the people who'd stray off from sydney rd. Stupid, since sydney rd has a ton of middle eastern teens not to mention the a population of the old revolutionaries from Turkey living in melbourne.

I'll get a time check on when it vanished, but I remember some Turkish kids making facist runs around those backstreets after community gossip heated them up.

And theres an anarchist bookstore there?! Have to check it out when I roll into melbourne again; there are some awesome student houses and places around that area.