Thread: How Can I Contact: EZLN , FARC , etc. to help them

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    I would like to know how I could contact the different revolutionary groups operating in Latin America today..., I've been looking into the groups on youtube.., and find that EZLN ( Los Zapatistas ) are the one I most closely relate to.... I also looked at the FARC, but find that they are in a more radical stage and can't quite understand how they justify their fight or what is the problem there... but I know that for some reason Colombia's president is obtaining help from the u.s. , and whenever that happens something fishy is behind it all....

    Also' my whole Ideology is to help Latin America free themselves from the emperialism of the u.s. , and achieve a socialist type goverment where all Latin American countries unify and have a currency of their own in the future.... (like the European Union), and again without the secrecy and/or the dirty governments of the world having any relations with us....
    Also establish governments in each of our Latin countries that have real freedoms.., and a sense of progress and work ethic or love for the land is ensued in the population...

    So a group that has their ideology close to mines' would be the right one,
    for me to help.... ANY IDEAS OR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.......
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    there was a guy here who was going out to work for them a while back, run a search on revleft for the thread

    EDIT: EZLN that is, i would stay away from FARC
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    Be active in your own country and place first.

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    Luis speaks the truth on this one.

    But anyway, I'm pretty sure there's a website (like...www.ezln.org or something) that has info on it. Not 100% though.
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    Originally posted by Luís Henrique@July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+July 20, 2007 07:13 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ July 20, 2007 07:13 pm)
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

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    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che [/b]
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live.
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    Originally posted by g.ram+July 20, 2007 01:47 pm--> (g.ram @ July 20, 2007 01:47 pm)
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:13 pm
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

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    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live. [/b]
    Che was Argentine yet he travelled to Cuba and Angola to assist with their revolutions first.
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    you might be able to find some information by contacting the comrades at the mexican solidarity network:

    http://www.mexicosolidarity.org/site/
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+July 20, 2007 07:22 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ July 20, 2007 07:22 pm)
    Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 01:47 pm
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:13 pm
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

    Luís Henrique
    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live.
    Che was Argentine yet he travelled to Cuba and Angola to assist with their revolutions first. [/b]
    What is your point ?

    Unfortunately not every body can be Che. Not every one can afford to travel abroad to participate revolution in other countries.

    And Che's expedition to Congo and Bolivia failed primarily because there is not enough local co-operation and they were not Knowledgeable enough to carry out on their own.
    It is possible to build gigantic factories according to a ready-made Western pattern by bureaucratic command – although, to be sure, at triple the normal cost. But the farther you go, the more the economy runs into the problem of quality, which slips out of the hands of a bureaucracy like a shadow. The Soviet products are as though branded with the gray label of indifference. Under a nationalized economy, quality demands a democracy of producers and consumers, freedom of criticism and initiative – conditions incompatible with a totalitarian regime of fear, lies and flattery.
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    Originally posted by g.ram+July 20, 2007 01:55 pm--> (g.ram @ July 20, 2007 01:55 pm)
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:22 pm
    Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 01:47 pm
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:13 pm
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

    Luís Henrique
    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live.
    Che was Argentine yet he travelled to Cuba and Angola to assist with their revolutions first.
    What is your point ?

    Unfortunately not every body can be Che. Not every one can afford to travel abroad to participate revolution in other countries.

    And Che's expedition to Congo and Bolivia failed primarily because there is not enough local co-operation and they were not Knowledgeable enough to carry out on their own. [/b]
    My point is it seems that you think everyone should put an onus on revolution in their own country first. Che obviously didnt believe that was important, so If he has the means to go to Colombia to join FARC guerillas then I say fair play to him, I dont think anyone on this forum should dissuade him
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    Originally posted by g.ram+July 20, 2007 01:47 pm--> (g.ram @ July 20, 2007 01:47 pm)
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:13 pm
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

    Luís Henrique
    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live. [/b]
    Well, that is half of my point. The other half is, why would EZLN or FARC, or whatever other organisation, be interested in someone who has no experience of activism?

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    Originally posted by Luís Henrique+July 20, 2007 02:16 pm--> (Luís Henrique @ July 20, 2007 02:16 pm)
    Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 01:47 pm
    Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 07:13 pm
    Luís Henrique
    @July 20, 2007 01:13 pm
    Be active in your own country and place first.

    Luís Henrique
    ''any victory over imperialism anywhere in the world is also our own victory'' - Che
    I think you misunderstood what is said.

    For example I can't go over to Mexico or Venezuela or Colombia or Pakistan to take part in the worker's struggle against the Capitalists.

    All I can do is fight against MY BOSSES in my country. Luis is point is that only. Start the fight against imperialism in the place where you live.
    Well, that is half of my point. The other half is, why would EZLN or FARC, or whatever other organisation, be interested in someone who has no experience of activism?

    Luís Henrique [/b]
    The working class by in large have no 'experience of activism' but without their participation there can be no revolution.
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist@July 20, 2007 02:22 pm
    The working class by in large have no 'experience of activism' but without their participation there can be no revolution.
    But we are not discussing the working class in general, we are discussing CGDR.

    If I was a member of FARC or EZLN directive bodies, and someone asked me how they could help, I would ask back, "what do you know how to do? Have you been active in an union, in the students movement, or some other social movement?"

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    Originally posted by Luís Henrique+July 20, 2007 02:40 pm--> (Luís Henrique @ July 20, 2007 02:40 pm)
    Ulster Socialist
    @July 20, 2007 02:22 pm
    The working class by in large have no 'experience of activism' but without their participation there can be no revolution.
    But we are not discussing the working class in general, we are discussing CGDR.

    If I was a member of FARC or EZLN directive bodies, and someone asked me how they could help, I would ask back, "what do you know how to do? Have you been active in an union, in the students movement, or some other social movement?"

    Luís Henrique [/b]
    with that attitude, its no wonder left influence isnt growing.

    I mean, everyone has to start from somewhere.
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist@July 20, 2007 02:44 pm
    I mean, everyone has to start from somewhere.
    And the Dominican Republic is as good a place as anywhere else.

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    Originally posted by Luís Henrique+July 20, 2007 02:49 pm--> (Luís Henrique @ July 20, 2007 02:49 pm)
    Ulster Socialist
    @July 20, 2007 02:44 pm
    I mean, everyone has to start from somewhere.
    And the Dominican Republic is as good a place as anywhere else.

    Luís Henrique [/b]
    i didnt mean geographically i meant in terms of joining a group.
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    Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+July 20, 2007 02:51 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ July 20, 2007 02:51 pm)
    Originally posted by Luís [email protected] 20, 2007 02:49 pm
    Ulster Socialist
    @July 20, 2007 02:44 pm
    I mean, everyone has to start from somewhere.
    And the Dominican Republic is as good a place as anywhere else.

    Luís Henrique
    i didnt mean geographically i meant in terms of joining a group. [/b]
    I am sure there are plenty of groups in the Dominican Republic also.

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    yet if the man really wants to help with the movement surely he can learn something, and they will put him to a task, even if its a small task its a task nonetheless.
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    Originally posted by The&#045;Spark@July 20, 2007 03:19 pm
    yet if the man really wants to help with the movement surely he can learn something, and they will put him to a task, even if its a small task its a task nonetheless.
    Yeah, no doubt - they will probably ask him to help by making the movement&#39;s points in the place were he is.

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    All the answers are helpful.., but to everyone&#39;s knowledge.., I was in the
    U.S. Army and desserted just about 5 months ago, due to the realization I came to&#39;&#39;. from being there.., I have grown as a person and know where I stand in the world..

    So as far as experience goes&#39;.., I have military experience, I can speak English/Spanish fluent....and I&#39;m willing to help the cause&#39;.... and I do have my "means" (money), to travel to the different countries

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