Anti fascist Demo, London, This friday

[Forward Union]

On Friday Islamo-Fascist nutters (supporters of the late al-Muhajiroun) will be demonstrating opposite downingstreet against "Brittish Opression". Members of Stormfront have caught wind of this and will be holding a counter demo at the same time, same place.

I strongly propose a third, explicitly antifascist, counter demonstration to oppose both strands of anti-working class bigotry - Islamic Extreamism and Nazism. And have been in touch with local antifascists and class-concious organisations.

The demo is 2 till 5 opposite downing street. The original callout is here

www.britishoppression.com,

counter-demo info/discussion at

http ://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/counter-presence-muslim-london-demo-388436.html

Anyone up for it should get back to me. We can then Organise a meeting time and place with other antifascists. Bring flags and placards.

Heres a rough drafted callout

(if you've got any comments/criticisms/additions/open hatred please post 'em)

Counter-demonstration: Against Fascism, Against Islamism
Date: 15th June 2007
Time: 2pm - 5pm
Location: Downing Street

This Friday, 15th June, will see two factions take part in demonstrations outside Downing Street. The first, organised on the theme of "British Oppression", is a call for Muslims around the UK to demonstrate against attacks by the British State on the Muslim community. The second, organised through the Stormfront White Nationalist forum in opposition, calls for the British people to stand up against the supposed Islamist threat walking our streets.

In reality, the two factions represent two sides of the same coin. The first, organised by a supporter of Omar Bakri Mohammed (founder of the now-disbanded al-Muhajiroun, spokesperson for Osama bin Laden and supporter of al-Qaeda), calls for the Muslim community to be separated from the rest of British society. In their view, it is the obligation of every Muslim to be opposed to the "ways of the infidel" (identified as secularism, democracy, and free expression), and to fight for the establishment of Sharia law.

Similarly, the fascists of Stormfront and similar groups have as their ultimate goal the complete eradication of all non-"whites" from the UK, based on this very same notion - that those of different races, different religions, different cultures are inescapably distinct from and different to one another, leaving the only options as "peaceful" separation or racial war.

Both sides ultimately hold the same goal and work from the same basis. For both, social problems are identified as exclusive to their particular group and a result of the actions of the other. Police raids and media misrepresentation are exclusive to "the Muslims" and are the fault of "the British" as a collective whole. Similarly, unemployment and lack of housing are solely problems of "the white majority" as a result of mass migration on the part of the ever-changing "other". As such, they reinforce one another's agendas, both ideologically by pursuing the same separatist goals, and through propaganda by providing a concrete example to point to as evidence of the impossibility of co-existence.

That the British state and mainstream media are currently targetting Muslims is transparently true. However, when we divide ourselves into closed-off communities of race, of religion, of nationality, pitting ourselves against one another, we only reinforce the work of the authorities by ensuring that the majority of our society remains divided. The state which has reduced Iraq to rubble is the same state which has decimated our health service, leaving all - black, white or Asian, Muslim, Christian or atheist - to suffer. The media which identifies every person of Muslim descent as a potential terrorist does not hesitate to stereotype and attack the white working class as innately violent, thuggish, uneducated and brutal.

It is in unity that we find our greatest strength. As such, it is important for us - of whatever heritage - to reject those who would spread division. On 15th June, two such groups converge, offering a false ultimatum of support for one or the other. We stand together to show that both sides have nothing to offer in the fight for a free society.

For further information:
- "Muslims Rise Against British Oppression": http://www.britishoppression.com
- " Counter Presence at the Muslim London Demo": http://www.stormfront. org/forum/showthread.php/counter-presence-muslim-london-demo-388436.html (note: link is to a fascist forum, use an anonymizer if you don't want the scum getting your IP)
- "British Oppression Downing Street protest - the usual suspects strike again": https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/05/371658.html

[RebelOutcast]

I think I'm going to treat this one as a spectator sport, sit back with a bud and watch the two teams fight :P

Count me in.

[Forward Union]

Yes I forgot to add, BYOB

[OneBrickOneVoice]

good luck comrades. too bad I'm a good 3000 miles away. Take lots of pictures of the nazis as send them to FashWatch

[farleft]

Personally i'd love to see those two groups fight to the death, maybe us lot could just turn up at the end when the others are all down and bloodied, could be easy pickings...

I'll be around for that, i'll txt you or something tomorrow comrade.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by farleft@June 11, 2007 11:26 pm
Personally i'd love to see those two groups fight to the death, maybe us lot could just turn up at the end when the others are all down and bloodied, could be easy pickings...

I'll be around for that, i'll txt you or something tomorrow comrade.

Alright we've sorted out a meeting place but it's secret as to avoid getting intercepted by the fash.

Txt me and I'll txt you the details.

[TC]

Wait, a muslim group is protesting against oppression, police raids, terror laws, the invasion and occupation of iraq, against the british government, and you (and the nazis) want to use this as a chance to protest them (while the Nazis will be doing the same)???

This reminds me of the pro-Palestine march on saturday when the Zionists and the BNP counter-demonstrators ended up protesting together against the march.

You need to get your politics straight, what you're proposing will be understandably interpreted as racism!

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by TragicClown@June 12, 2007 10:14 am
Wait, a muslim group is protesting against oppression, police raids, terror laws, the invasion and occupation of iraq, against the british government, and you (and the nazis) want to use this as a chance to protest them (while the Nazis will be doing the same)???

No we'll be protesting against the Nazis. And the Islamo-fascist ellemets within the muslim demonstration.

As I said to you before, the BNP and NF have had demonstrations for Evironmentalism, localised democracy and even for workplaces to be run by the workers" (look at the NFs aims and principals) the fact is these 'acceptable' policies are simply a front to suck in their(and our own) contemporary support base.

In the same way the Islamo-fash scum who organised the demo intend to hoodwink the muslim community.

We need to firstly show that it's not a white people vs muslim issue, it's a workers V the State issue. By protesting the British state in solidarity with the aims of the muslim demo and against the Fascist counter demo.

And that a class-unified approach must be considered more important than a "behead those that insult islam approach" and challenge the reactionary nature of the Britishopression movement.

Issues?

I take on board what you said about being misrepresented. But with an array of anti-fascist flags, anti-nazi chants and a big banner saying "BNP IS NO SOLUTION" I can't see that happening.

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55.
Q. WHAT WOULD THE NATIONAL FRONT DO ABOUT THIS?
A. The NF believes in a system of distributist ownership. This means that we would strongly encourage workers to directly own the factories, farms or other places of employment. In this way people are more likely to take pride in, and enjoy, their work; they also cannot be thrown out of work at the whim of some whizz-kid in the City of London.

64.
Q. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE STOCK EXCHANGE?
A. It would be irrelevent to a distributist economy where employees own the factories and farms in which they work. Consequently the Stock Exchange - the world's greatest casino - would close down.

[An archist]

that's going to be a hell of a complicated situation.