Join Redwatch, then get a job as a mole in the Socialist Party. But you'll really be faithful to the Party, and pass them information about Redwatch's illegalities. Double agents have fun!h34r:
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It is my plan to become active in the Socialist Party, but I recently came across a group known as Redwatch who label all leftists on their website.
Click here to look
They have been linked to attacks, particularly on a Labour Party councillor who was knifed by a group associated to Redwatch. Any ideas on what I should do as I do not want to appear on the Redwatch website and risk attack.
Join Redwatch, then get a job as a mole in the Socialist Party. But you'll really be faithful to the Party, and pass them information about Redwatch's illegalities. Double agents have fun!
"If the workers of the world want to win, all they have to do is recognize their own solidarity. They have nothing to do but fold their arms and the world will stop. The workers are more powerful with their hands in their pockets than all the property of the capitalists."
-Joseph Ettor, on the general strike
"I can get up here and shout 'I'm a Communist,' and everybody'll shrug and say 'Aw, he's crazy.' You try doing that on the outside and they'll arrest you. Why, this is the last place in America that's truly free."
-Woody Guthrie, upon being committed to a mental hospital
"When we choose between communism and anarchism we choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee."
-Me, on the tragedy of leftist splintering
well there is a FashWatch in Britan which you should join up with to counter the redwatch fuckers
"Love Other Human Beings like you would Yourself"
-- Ho Chi Minh
"We Don't Care who gets elected, because whoever it is will be Overthrown"
-- Subcomandante Marcos
Ah touché. I think both websites should be shut down, as they are a severe restriction on civil liberties. One has the right not to be displayed on a website with their personal information.
Im on it about half a dozen times and im fine.
It's never been a dangerous website It features photographs of 1000's and 1000's of activists, none of whom have ever suffered anything. Furthermore the maintenance of the site costs the fascists a lot financially, and in time to defend it legally. It's a massive liability to them, and one I hope they keep.
It's essentially like me cut and pasting pictures of strangers onto a site and saying im going to kill them.
I'd be more worried about getting your picture in the daily mail. To be honest if you take any action to prevent yourself being identified (masks, fake names) you look like a self-righteous hooligan, and you are certainly over reacting.
I wouldn't do anything mate, it's all a load of hype to try and scare newcomers.
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
I think rooting out and expelling racists from our working class communities should be achieved by any means. Even if it breaks liberal "civil liberties" what must you think of actually combatting the fascists, good god.
"the only way the rise of the German nazi party could have been prevented was if its enemies had recognised it for what it was right at the start and had smashed it in its infancy with utmost force" - Adolf Hitler
Emphasis added
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
This.
"If the workers of the world want to win, all they have to do is recognize their own solidarity. They have nothing to do but fold their arms and the world will stop. The workers are more powerful with their hands in their pockets than all the property of the capitalists."
-Joseph Ettor, on the general strike
"I can get up here and shout 'I'm a Communist,' and everybody'll shrug and say 'Aw, he's crazy.' You try doing that on the outside and they'll arrest you. Why, this is the last place in America that's truly free."
-Woody Guthrie, upon being committed to a mental hospital
"When we choose between communism and anarchism we choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee."
-Me, on the tragedy of leftist splintering
yeah i agree let's not make the same mistakes twice, lets make it dangerous to be a racist.
"Love Other Human Beings like you would Yourself"
-- Ho Chi Minh
"We Don't Care who gets elected, because whoever it is will be Overthrown"
-- Subcomandante Marcos
Redwatch have one of the e-mails I sent them in their Fan Mail section. :P
Look for the on from Tom Myhill (that's me)
MAKECAPITALISMHISTORY
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00
It is better to die on you feet than live on you knees.
I cant find it, where abouts is it exactly?
don't be afraid of it or take it to serious, it's just a way of them to try and scare us, and if you want to join that party you should have the commitment and courage to take any possible risk that is attached to it, don't let them intimidate you, stand for what you believe and be willing to fight for it
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based on five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, and county commissioners."
You need two to shake hands, but only one to make a fist...
Just join an anarchist group instead and wear your balaclava.
Dont worry about redwatch mate,only the cool kids get on it
And nice one Tom "when the time comes, you're gonna be up shit creek with no fuckin paddle my friend"
"But like Trotskyites working with fascists in the USSR to plant no warning bombs to rip out the lungs of Soviet children from their tiny rib cages you will probably choose to turn a blind eye." - RedSunRising
RIP tech,you will be missed
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Redwatch was shut down for a time and so were some of its affiliate sites but they returned.
Well, if you feel that your life is in danger then it's best to conceal it at public rallies,etc. though I don't think the SP would be very approving of that. Like Urban Spirit said, a lot of people get their pictures put on Redwatch, rarely does anything happen and only a few incidents have been reported in connection to such pictures.
It doesnt cost R/W alot to stay open. But you're right nobody has ever been seriously hurt. That labour cnllr got a wee scratch on his face, my Cat could do worse.
you know, you should just put a virus on their website or find ways to shut it down. The british government should be shutting redwatch down. But the government are fascist of course.
