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    No, you're regurtitating what the RCP says.

    We'll get somewhere when people can start rejecting capitalism in all its forms.
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    well the Soviet Union was able to push forward socialist programs like collectivization
    "Collectivization" was not a "socialist program". It was the installment of fully capitalist relations of production in Russian agriculture.

    even when it was the only socialist nation
    Socialist nation is a contradiction in terms.

    China ... managed to turn itself from a shithole backwards country into a booming self-sufficient capitalist economy
    Corrected.

    same time, pushing forward socialist programs like for example, the people's communes where everyone worked collectively on the same level to produce for each other.
    Well, this portrays the events as if everything worked well for the "red" bourgeoisie in the "people's communes". Except it didn't, Mao had to shut the communes down because of dangerous elements of proletarian opposition.

    Oppressed nations ARE able to become self-sufficient and to become even world powers through the bold step forward into socialism. I think China... prove that
    Now you call China an oppressed nation?

    Well, some Maoists in Turkey think that Turkey is an oppressed nation. I won't be surprised if you start claiming that Canada or England is an oppressed nation!

    To compare the Soviet Union to Nazi Germany and the People's Republic of China to Nazi Germany and New Deal America is upsurd.
    Why? They all had something very significant in common: the same mode of production, capitalism.
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