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In these forums there are bunches of Anarchists, Stalinists, Social Democrats, Democratic Socialists, Trotskyists, Capies, everything.
But where are my fellow Marxist-Leninists who aren't afraid of of a real revolution of the people?
It's probably wrong for me to believe in every single word Marx said without knowing thouroughly the other socialist movements in question, but I don't, yet I still call myself a Marxist-Leninist. Where are the rest of you? We will unite!!
Im here comrade.
REVOLUTION... BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
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Count me in
Our Word is our weapon
- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
ok so that's 5, not enough yet for a revolution but maybe a band :P
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
SCARED OF A REVOLUTION?
No I'm not scared I just don't feel people who think that Lenin did a great job should be trying to remake a country.
You know why? Cuz some jackass will take power and become aa dictator.
Are the People supposed to rule? Oh wait for that to happen things need to be equal.
Marx's concept was good but his predictions were all dead wrong.
After teh revolution Lenin didn't do another damn thing that worked
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
here, but prepare to get flamed by some people for not counting Stalinists to marxism-leninism
marxist here...frankly im not afraid of a revolution, but....i highly condem lenin for starting a revolution in russia before the russian proleteriat was ready, and its something we need to watch out for.
stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
We should all smoke the same Weed.
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You can't get any movement larger than five people without including at least one fucking idiot.
-<span style=\'color:green\'>Green</span> Mars
"Why aren't there more Marxists on che-lives?'
Clip the "Leninist" tag; Leninism is more a kind of "third-cousin" to Marxism than the real thing. There's nothing about a "vanguard party of intellectuals" "leading" the working class to victory in the pages of Marx and Engels.
Curiously enough though, it's usually ONLY the Leninists-Trotskyists-Stalinists-Maoists who have EVER read ANY Marx at all. They may be, and usually are, POOR representatives of Marx's thought...but that's too often ALL THERE IS. :sad:
There are other reasons at work: it's one thing to be vaguely sympathetic to the "left" or to emotionally identify with a particular left "hero". It's a DIFFERENT thing to learn to THINK like a Marxist...and once you begin to do that, it never really goes away. There is a sense in which you become "hooked"--you can't really ever look at ANYTHING in the same way that "most" people do.
People are sometimes a little "scared" (for want of a better word) of that...it means or can mean a life very different from what was planned for you or from what you had planned for yourself. The life of a revolutionary is NOT a particularly easy one.
There is a "safe" version of Marxism...the academic version. In the university environment, everyone agrees that ideas are toys...NOT to be taken seriously. An "academic" "Marxist" is perfectly respectable and can even land a juicy consulting contract with his government's chief intelligence agency without criticism from his peers.
Finally, of course, the reason that there are not many Marxists at che-lives is because it is mostly a "young" board...it takes TIME to read enough and learn enough to be, in a functioning sense, a Marxist. A few will make that effort, most probably won't. And some, of course, will say that it's pointless, that "Marx was wrong", that we are all doomed to live head down in a barrel of shit until the sun burns out.
We'll see.
(Edited by redstar2000 at 4:58 am on Dec. 17, 2002)
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I agree with most of the things you have said. I have read a bit, and its hard to look at things the same now, all I tend to do is criticise, my girlfriend thinks it's funny and frustrating at the same time.
I disagree however that Lenin was a poor representative.
The others I dont know enough about but I think I won't like Stalin had to say
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
Lenin wasn't the god of socialism many of you see him as. He did a lot of "bad things" during the course of the revolution.
\"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers.\"
-Mohandas Gandhi
best representative so far...
I suppose trying to create a socialist state is bad :P
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
I believe Lenin contributed many things to the revolution.
At the same time I'm not afraid to admit that he did make mistakes. I call myself a marxist-leninist. I don't follow either blindley.
I call myself a marxist-leninist because that is where the core of my teachings come from. I don't believe that it matters to much extent what you 'call yourself'. More important is whether you have the 'revolutionary spirit', and that you can work with others who aren't (in this case) marxist-leninist to overthrow the capitalist system.To me,that is being a true revolutionary and that is what matters.
Our Word is our weapon
- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
I'm a marxist and I think his predications are quite accurate, I mean he was the only person to predict globalisation, which he called universal interdependance of nations. The only thing he predicted inaccurately is the victory of the proletariat.
RedRev- That's quite a menshevist attitude, something uncharacteristic of you.
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Precisely comrade BEL.
We are not dogmatists and will not make the same mistakes, as we are wise and will learn from the mistakes of others.
(Edited by nz revolution at 6:29 am on Dec. 18, 2002)
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
That doesn't make him a good representative
No, but creating an Authoritarian nightmare is a bad thing.
I believe lenin had the capabilty to create a democractic socialist state but didn't. He was a good revolutionary, a real man of the people, and for that I admire him. He just bad some bad choices in creating a nation.
\"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers.\"
-Mohandas Gandhi
im more a marxist then anything else, i like a bit of everything, mostly marx tho, so yes, i am a marxist
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I've changed my mind, I'm not a marxist-leninist anymore.
I prefer to just be a person. A person who is greatly inspired to marx, engels and lenin's teachings, but still nevertheless just a person.
Our Word is our weapon
- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
